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post #1 of 12 Old 01-07-2014, 02:05 AM Thread Starter
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Thinking of buying a 456

One problem with my 550 is that I cannot carry both my wife and daughter as passengers at the same time, which leads to problems on occasions. I am therefore considering the purchase of a 456 to complement it.

My initial thought is that I should be looking for a 456M with manual box, but they seem to be rather difficult to find: most of the 456s on the market are automatics and the few manuals I have noticed for sale are not Ms.

So, my questions are:

1. What is the automatic like to drive? Is it a good box compared to other autos? Can someone who has driven, or preferably owned, both manual and auto, tell me whether the auto option suits the car, or is it very much "second best"? I know this is a bit like asking "how long is a piece of string", as the choice between manual and auto is a very personal one, but any thoughts on the matter will be very much appreciated.

2. Is the Modificato distinctly better than the original? What are the major advantages? Are there any disadvantages?

3. Is the 456 a genuine 4-seater, or really no more than a 2+2?

All contributions will be gratefully received, either on forum or by PM. And if anyone (in the UK) is considering selling your car, I should be interested to hear from you. Thanks.

Best wishes, John
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John- Will let the owners answer most of those questions, but with a 2600 mm wheelbase (the 612 is 2950), not much room in the back.

There were 33 M GTs and 139 GTAs imported into the UK, and some of those have probably emigrated to other parts. For the 456, 141 GTs and 61 GTAs, mainly because the GTA was not introduced until late 1996.

Make sure and get a compression and bleed-down check on any 456/456M in case she got a bad set of valve guides.

The 456M got an updated interior, tossed the movable spoiler, and had a unique firing order, hunting for a little more smoothness, which was never used again. Like late 456s, including all the GTAs, 456M uses updated Motronic 5.2 vs 2.7. Some updates on the windows, too, but they can still be problematic. Permanent fix is available for 456/456M windows. The 456M also used vacuum assist for the brakes compared to hydraulic boost for the early 456s and received an updated ABS system with traction control. The owners can add some more.

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Thanks, Taz, mine of info as usual.

Best wishes, John
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IMO, The M is the one to get in these days of the 456 series.

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456 is really a 2+2. Adults can not fit comfortably in the back. 612 is a better option if you need 4 usable seats.
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I would go for a test drive in a 612 and see what you think.

The 4 speed Auto, takes the character from the 456, it is more of a long distance cruiser and is very quiet. When I was selling mine a complaint was it was not Ferrari enough! [ They did come from a guy who came in a souped up Aston and a guy who had just sold his AMG 63] .

You can get a 612 in manual if you want, but try the auto, I think you will love it and you may even find the 550 might not get used as much as you thought.
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I owned a 612 - great car but a few guys I know have the 456 and after they worked out the kinks love the car and rightfully so.

It's not going to depreciate so all you have left is maintenance and lots of miles to enjoy. A 2+2 is rough on adults let alone a lady in a skirt trying to get out even the FF.
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John,


Being in the UK, I'll assume you're familiar with the Jaguar XJS. I used to have one and was looking for something as close as possible.

The 456M auto is a very nice GT cruiser. The 456 has the nice ride of the XJS, but the sound and acceleration of a Ferrari. The shifts are about as smooth as the XJS, and even for a 10-year old car, the performance is fantastic.

I've driven Ms with both stock exhaust and Tubi's. To my ear, the stock has just enough of a muffled growl to let you know you are in a Ferrari, the Tubi was too loud for long distance cruising.

Personally, in the 456, I specifically prefer the auto over the stick, if only for ease in city traffic.

The seats in the 456 are similar to an XJS, and really only suitable for kids.

The only thing I've found in the same league is a Maserati QP. But then that is a full size 4-door with proper rear seats.

I agree with the comments regarding the 612, but we found it much too big for us.

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post #9 of 12 Old 01-07-2014, 03:43 PM
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It's a 2+2, but it is a roomy car, especially in contrast to the 550. Sure, it's not a proper 4-seater, but in my view the backseats are perfectly usable for shorter trips, and even for longer ones if you're not taller than 170cm. One of my kids is about that height and she's fine....but she's coming from the back of my C1 (911), haha. I see you have a C2...the 456 has much more room. Also, I don't know about the 456, but the M seats have a mechanism that forward the seats electronically for easier back access.
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Sorry for the really late reply. I own a 456M GTA 2000 RHD & have not driven the manual. In my opinion the GT nature of the 456 negates the necessity of having to have a stick shift. You are meant to cruise, if you need to feel the car more sure get a stick but this is more suited to V8's. If you have a family & kids you do not want the stick in a 456, however if you are a purist it may be hard to own a Ferrari of any model that does not have a stick shift or paddles at the very least. If I had a choice and enough funds I would go for the 612 however the paddles and gearbox have been know to be a bit clunky when changing gears. Especially in traffic conditions (you may get a sore neck). Remember Ferrari have been really slow to introduce the more reliable double clutch until much later compared to most other German cars, reducing service intervals immensely. Skip the 612 & get an FF. All the space with all the power & double clutch.
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post #11 of 12 Old 12-23-2014, 04:38 AM Thread Starter
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No problem. I have rather gone off the idea now - considering a Maserati Grantursimo - less panache, more seats!

Best wishes, John
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personally think that a 612 is a much better/more desirable car than a granturismo(have driven a few) and i also love the F-1 shift in the 612 even in traffic.
give one a try!
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