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Opinion Needed - 599 GTB

Opinions on this car? I do like the color combo:

Aus Vorbesitz FERRARI 599 GTB Fiorano in Frankfurt am Main DE

Noticed that it does not have the steering wheel shift lights. On a 599 are these a must?

Also found this red LHD 599 GTB in the UK which looks well priced:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...Cnew?logcode=p
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Wow Boxer, those are about 430 money?!
I like the rosso one.

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I am generally not a big fan of the 599. I consider it quite big and the shape itself looks a bit bloated (I hope I am not offending anyone here).

I asked once a well-known Ferrari designer about these facts and he replied that packaging is a major headache these days for designers. They don't seem to be as free as they were in the past to prioritise form over function.

Also, given the size of the car, I don't think red is the colour that suits the 599 best. I tend to like the darker metallic ones. I don't know the colour codes, but I am referring to dark grey and titanium. Black is also nice.

Having said that, a friend in Switzerland asked me last Summer to help him find a 599. After monitoring the market for a while, I came across a immaculate 2007, 2-owner, dark metallic grey with black interior unit with 27.000 kms. An inspection by a Ferrari dealer showed very low usage of both the brakes (carbon) and clutch, and they confirmed it was absolutely flawless, to the point they were not able to find anything to be done, besides the standard service, which was due.

My friend paid barely above CHF 100K. He was a happy camper!

As a confirmation of my earlier statements about size, I kept the car in my garage for a few weeks, and it really looked big compared to my other cars. The size comparison with the Maranello was quite remarkable.

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I would agree that the darker colors tend to suit the 599 better, hence the interest in the Pozzi Blu one. However the Rosso one looks to be very well kept and well speced.
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That Pozzi+Blu + Cuoio looks very nice on the 599.

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I think the Pozzi blue fits the 599 more than the rosso.
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Love em both

But for me, Blu Pozzi plus Cuoio is the ne plus ultra.


I can't wait until I can get one for 575 money......

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Pozzi looks good in the light, but black when the light is dim.
I agree the darker shades show its shape best, but dark as in Silverstone or similar.

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Opinions on this car? I do like the color combo:

Aus Vorbesitz FERRARI 599 GTB Fiorano in Frankfurt am Main DE

Noticed that it does not have the steering wheel shift lights. On a 599 are these a must?

Also found this red LHD 599 GTB in the UK which looks well priced:

Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano F1 2dr 6.0


It's funny Boxer, I've looked at this car since about 4 month. For me the most appealing colour combination. The car belongs to a german banker, very rarely used and in excellent shape. Only downside for me: Size of the car......remember...the whale.
Would it be the Scud replacement ?

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It's funny Boxer, I've looked at this car since about 4 month. For me the most appealing colour combination. The car belongs to a german banker, very rarely used and in excellent shape. Only downside for me: Size of the car......remember...the whale.
Would it be the Scud replacement ?
No, it would be a separate second addition.

In terms of size, as it would be used as an "Autobahn" express mostly, size is less of an issue.
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No, it would be a separate second addition.

In terms of size, as it would be used as an "Autobahn" express mostly, size is less of an issue.
Agree. Autobahn express is a great synonym for such a beast ! I picture the young couple in front of you "screaming": "Honey move over, "Moby Dick" is coming....save us please !"


BTW, trying to be objective, the front of the FF and the F12 actually are not smaller, just pretending to be smaller, in that respect to all 599 owners, to me the whale synonym appears because of it's traditional (whale head) formed slope from front to the front windscreen. It is really interesting how the shaping alone will separate impressions from an otherwise almost identical size.

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Amazing cars. Haven't driven one so can't really comment on that but 620bhp is bound to satisfy owners and I've driven the predecessor and the successor, both of which I think are awesome.

I do think they're too big, glad the F12 is smaller again. And the looks are good, but not great, IMHO. But there is very little to critisise on these cars otherwise, they are amazing. Pozzi Blu over Rosso for me.

On the 458 I love my steering wheel lights. But would I really miss them? Don't think so. In a GT like the 599 it is even less of an issue.


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Amazing cars. Haven't driven one so can't really comment on that but 620bhp is bound to satisfy owners and I've driven the predecessor and the successor, both of which I think are awesome.

I do think they're too big, glad the F12 is smaller again. And the looks are good, but not great, IMHO. But there is very little to critisise on these cars otherwise, they are amazing. Pozzi Blu over Rosso for me.


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Have driven it.....amazing, half the time sideways without the "aid's", crazy. Gearchange time slower than F12 naturally so but almost Scud like (according to "feel"). Technically without a doubt...fantastic car!

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As a 599 owner I know I would say this but the size of the 599 is exaggerated.
Parked next to a 550 it makes the 550 seem small but in reality is only about 120mm longer than the 550 and 30mm wider.
It certainly doesn't seem big to drive, certainly not compared to the Murcielargo. It's narrower than your F50 by about the same amount the 599 is wider than the 550, so you certainly are already used to driving cars this big. I would agree that a Dino it is not.

As far as the LEDs in the steering wheel are concerned, I agree with Onno. Mine has them and its nice but in real world road driving its cosmetic, along with BOSE stero, leather headlining and rear shelf and most of the other options.

The only two I would say you should get are the front parking sensors as the corners are hard to see and you can't realistically retro fit, and the full electric adjustable seats to cope with different size drivers. However, I didn't see a car when I was looking wiithour these.
The ceramic brakes were an option but every car seems to have them.

I also really like the HGTE pack on the car.

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Opinions on this car? I do like the color combo:

Aus Vorbesitz FERRARI 599 GTB Fiorano in Frankfurt am Main DE

Noticed that it does not have the steering wheel shift lights. On a 599 are these a must?

Also found this red LHD 599 GTB in the UK which looks well priced:

Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano F1 2dr 6.0
Black and tan = my favouriite colour combination for interior: I have it in my (red) 550 and two (dk. blue) Mercs. Cuoio more practical than tan / beige. If you look very closely, I think you will see that the Pozzi car does have paddles.

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[QUOTE=Rallyman;319809]
Having said that, a friend in Switzerland asked me last Summer to help him find a 599. After monitoring the market for a while, I came across a immaculate 2007, 2-owner, dark metallic grey with black interior unit with 27.000 kms. An inspection by a Ferrari dealer showed very low usage of both the brakes (carbon) and clutch, and they confirmed it was absolutely flawless, to the point they were not able to find anything to be done, besides the standard service, which was due.

My friend paid barely above CHF 100K. He was a happy camper![QUOTE]

That's around 70,000 in real money - amazing!

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As a 599 owner I know I would say this but the size of the 599 is exaggerated.
Parked next to a 550 it makes the 550 seem small but in reality is only about 120mm longer than the 550 and 30mm wider.
It certainly doesn't seem big to drive, certainly not compared to the Murcielargo. It's narrower than your F50 by about the same amount the 599 is wider than the 550, so you certainly are already used to driving cars this big. I would agree that a Dino it is not.

As far as the LEDs in the steering wheel are concerned, I agree with Onno. Mine has them and its nice but in real world road driving its cosmetic, along with BOSE stero, leather headlining and rear shelf and most of the other options.

The only two I would say you should get are the front parking sensors as the corners are hard to see and you can't realistically retro fit, and the full electric adjustable seats to cope with different size drivers. However, I didn't see a car when I was looking wiithour these.
The ceramic brakes were an option but every car seems to have them.

I also really like the HGTE pack on the car.

You are welcome to have a go in mine anytime.
Jem, I agree with you. the 599 isn't that larger, it just shows in a impressive way how "shaping" a bodyform may give totally different impressions from almost same sizes.

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almost same sizes.
We'll just let the images speak for themselves.


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They are really almost the same size, except the 599 has much larger rims and is very flatulently in comparison. For me it's the 550 who remains the classic style and thats why I believe the 550/575 will become classics in their own respect.

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They are really almost the same size, except the 599 has much larger rims and is very flatulently in comparison. For me it's the 550 who remains the classic style and thats why I believe the 550/575 will become classics in their own respect.
Hi 212, I perfectly agree with you ....
I tried to superimpose 575M to 599 GTB, I had base the comparison to the back edge, my choice ....
I have indicated the different of dimensions, millimeter plus or minus ....

Boxer, however the 599 is a great car, good luck !
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