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post #1 of 19 Old 02-17-2013, 03:14 AM Thread Starter
 
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Help! 612

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Just got the problem this morning, I think the battery was low but enough to get the car start.
The problem after start, CST light on, ABS light on, Suspension light on, WOW. run the
car for 15 min. restart, all light still ON> is there a way to shut it down without SD3??
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Hi,
Just got the problem this morning, I think the battery was low but enough to get the car start.
The problem after start, CST light on, ABS light on, Suspension light on, WOW. run the
car for 15 min. restart, all light still ON> is there a way to shut it down without SD3??
This is 612.
612's don't deal well with low battery.

Buy a new battery and leave it on a conditioner - you may get lucky and lose all the CEL's suggest letting it sit over night with the battery disconnected.
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post #3 of 19 Old 02-17-2013, 08:13 AM
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I had the exact same problem with my 2005 575M and the problem was faulty engine speed sensor - cheap and quick fix.

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I forgot - if you want to reset the warning lights . Use the battery kill switch which resets the Computer
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Tony- Welcome to Ferrari Life. Personally, I never give a battery a second chance. If you replace it, the technician, or you, will turn the battery disconnect switch to off during the replacement. That should reset all those problems. Thent urn off A/C, radio etc, ignition to on for 30 seconds, ignition off for 30 seconds. ignition on and wait for check ok, start car, and let idle for 10 minutes with no input. Drive gently for 20 minutes and everything should be back to normal.

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post #6 of 19 Old 02-18-2013, 02:07 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hi Taz, Thank you for your reply.
Change the Battery, ignition on for 30sec, ignition off for 30 sec, start the car, drove around for 20 mins.
Those lights still on (CST, ABS, Suspension), what to do?? Do I need SD-3 to turn it off?
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The gas cap can also cause the CEL - make sure it clicks when closing.

Don't forget to buy a battery tender.
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Tony- Sounds like you need a trip to the dealer and an SD3. Even if you did not do that relearn procedure, she would do the relearn herself eventually. The low battery made her mad so you should get her a check-up. Hopefully, it will be a relatively simple procedure.

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I will wait a couple of days to see if anything change. new problem is my A/C blow warm air unless I set to 18"C, do I need to reset anything for the A/C system after Battery change?
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Tony- Try a bunch of recycles, on and off, and see if she will come back. Same thing happened to me when we turned off the disconnect switch and did not do a relearn on her. Eventually started working after recycling a few times. There is an A/C ECU.

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A bunch of recycles on and off work! Thank you for your info and knowledge.
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Hi Taz,
Checked the car with SD3 show "Front right wheel sensor". What are they? and How many
sensors on the right wheel. This is for RHD car. Can this problem happen when battary low?'
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Tony- The car has a tire pressure monitoring system that has a sensor/transmitter in each tire attached to the tire valve (3), a receiving antenna in the wheel well (3 bottom), and an ECU (1 bottom) in the passenger compartment. The TPMS sensors have batteries in them that last anywhere from 4-8 years, depending on whether they are Generation 1 or Generation 2 sensors. The SD3 can read how much battery life is left in the sensor or whether the sensor is dead.

Ferrari charges about $200 each for the Huf Beru RDE004 sensors, but you can get seond generaion ones (dark brown) on Amazon for $99 each. Note the 315 MHz RDE004 sensors are for early 612s, so you need to check and see if yours still uses the same ones as the 575M. The 599 and F430 use 433 MHz RDE001s. Disregard the date on the sensors in the amazon ad. No Ferraris had TPMS in the 1997-2001 timeframe until the 575M came out in late 2001.

Huf Beru RDE004 315MHz TPMS Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor for 1997-2001 Ferrari 550 : Amazon.com : Automotive

If one sensor is gone, replace all four. You can reuse your tire valve by using rebuild kits available on E-Bay or through TPMS shops online.
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I believe the sensor in question is a wheel speed sensor which is used by the ABS, Stability program, and suspension system which is why all your warning lights are illuminated. I had the same problem but with engine speed sensors which is also used by the same systems.
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Yes, is a wheel speed sensor that control ABS, CST and suspension. I drove the car with
SD3 on, when the car completely stop, the right front wheel showed -.01 while other showed .0.
could that be a problem? Do these sensor go bad often or just wire problem?
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Time to see hour mechanic - I think this will be a cheap quick fix.
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Whoops, wrong sensor from me. In addition to the speed sensors acting with the toothed wheel for ABS and CST, there are front wheel (only) vertical acceleration sensors on the suspension arms that feed info to the shock absorber ECU for tightening and loosening the shock absorber actuators depending on road conditions.

Not sure which one was giving you the fault, but a problem with the wheel speed sensors for the ABS/CST system should give you some sort of brake warning.
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Thank you for your info. will check the wire for these 2 sensors first, and hopefully don't
need to change them.
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post #19 of 19 Old 02-28-2013, 12:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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no more fault on SD3, but the light on dash still on. is that possible? SD3 can't remove
the light on dash. could this be gauge problem?
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