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Michael- Take that part number and plug it into Maranello Classic Parts finder and they should pop up.

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Michael - Try Eurospares, Amazon & eBay. I saw some on eBay UK only last week.

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Gianni- No shields on my Dino, Daytona, or 308, so why would I want them on my Maranello? Here we call that wearing your heart on your sleeve. Not for me.
Hello Terry,

Fair comment and reasoning. I'm glad that I asked the question since it has provided several interesting responses. I'll comment on the others individually.

But I still like your new yellow CCS brakes. They have a nice "pop" to them as compared to the red calipers.

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P.S. can you imagine what an eyesore - in my opinion - shields would be on my old 365GTC speciale? Our eyes have grown accustomed to the shields on the money-making Montezemolo cars but I likely would find them offensive on a GTC or a Lusso, for example.
Hello Seth,

I find it interesting to see you and others differentiate the look of the SF shield on earlier Ferraris versus more recent models, which is logical to me.

I found a photo of a 365 GT with the SF shield (see below) and IMO it does not look out of place. When I imagine the car without the shield, the look may be a little more refined without the yellow "pop" background of the shield. Do you know if this SF shield is correct for this model or do you think it was a 3rd party add-on?

I did notice that your former 365GTC Speciale did have a badge below the front fender louvers. I believe it's the letter "F" above the Pininfarina badge. Is that correct?

So even the older Ferrais had badges of some type, just not as prominent as the current SF shield with their yellow "pop". Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Original SF Shield versus CF Accessory Shield by Ferrari

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Fair question, Gianni. I do not find the shields offensive in any way. It's simply that I go back to the 1950s when Ferrari race cars wore the scudo - shield - of the Scuderia while the road cars never did. Also, to my eye the Maranello is such a flawless and pure design that it needs no ornamentation to take the eye away from its lines. just my 2c.
Hello Seth,

I agree that on some models, like the 575M with its simple yet elegant lines, the shield with it's yellow background "pop" could be a distraction and an irritant to some.

But as you explained well, it's the history of the SF shield that appeals to me by connecting the road cars to their racing ancestry. Which is the reason I am not keen about the CF shield that does not have the Scuderia Ferrari "SF" on it, which makes it appear to be a 3rd-party knock-off, although from Fabio's photo it's clear that it is an original Ferrari part.

Also on many of the newer Ferrari models, the center wheel cap has the prancing horse on a yellow background logo which IMO blends well with the similar coloured/designed shield.

Variety is the spice of life and I'm glad to see it applied here as well.

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Hello Seth,

I find it interesting to see you and others differentiate the look of the SF shield on earlier Ferraris versus more recent models, which is logical to me.

I found a photo of a 365 GT with the SF shield (see below) and IMO it does not look out of place. When I imagine the car without the shield, the look may be a little more refined without the yellow "pop" background of the shield. Do you know if this SF shield is correct for this model or do you think it was a 3rd party add-on?

I did notice that your former 365GTC Speciale did have a badge below the front fender louvers. I believe it's the letter "F" above the Pininfarina badge. Is that correct?

So even the older Ferrais had badges of some type, just not as prominent as the current SF shield with their yellow "pop". Please correct me if I am wrong.

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You are exactly right Gianni. The "F" badge above the Pininfarina lettering on the 365GTC was a company logo. Recall that its founder, Battista Farina was nicknamed 'Pinin' that I believe is slang for little brother or baby brother. He was known as Battista 'Pinin' Farina. When he created his Company he named it Carozzeria Pinin Farina, later melded into Pninfarina.

Note that Battista's older brother, Giovanni, founded 'Stabilimenti Farina' right after WW I and Battista worked there before forming his own Company. In 1953 Stabilimenti F. closed or may have been absorbed by Battista's Company. It may be that the "F" logo derived from the Stabilimenti Farina.

Of course the center wheel cap logos present no visual detriment to the cars' appearance being so small as to be invisible from any distance. Reminds me that I have seen tire valve caps bearing prancing horses, something that candidly I find silly and almost vain. Also great attractions to thieves too lacking in resourcefulness to steal the whole car. ;-)

Finally, I do not believe the 365GT2+2s were ever delivered from the factory with Scuderia Ferrari decoration.

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Michael- Take that part number and plug it into Maranello Classic Parts finder and they should pop up.
Hi Terry I checked the usual suspects like you mentioned, but managed to find a dealer with a set of the shields and have put my dealer in touch after he came up blank. Unfortunately no discount for doing all the donkey work. I'll pop up a shot once it's done. Be a good comparison to the 575M.

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Gianni- Those shields on the 365 GT 2+2 are not original and look completely out of place to most of us old timers. Just like they do on a Dino, 308, or any other Ferrari not delivered with them. For a flashback to what they looked like in the olden days, look at the painted shields on the 599s commemorating Gonzales' win at Silverstone 60 years ago.

Michael- Knew you would find them. They are pretty expensive, though.

Seth- Some of those badged tire valve caps were genuine Ferrari accessories and look quite nice. I had a set on my NF2s with rubber tire valves (part of aftermarket TPMS) to brighten up the black rubber.

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This is what Seth was talking about. Scuderia Ferrari shield on team race cars only. 2nd shot is Castellotti at Caracas 1955.

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Gianni- Those shields on the 365 GT 2+2 are not original and look completely out of place to most of us old timers. Just like they do on a Dino, 308, or any other Ferrari not delivered with them. For a flashback to what they looked like in the olden days, look at the painted shields on the 599s commemorating Gonzales' win at Silverstone 60 years ago.

Michael- Knew you would find them. They are pretty expensive, though.

Seth- Some of those badged tire valve caps were genuine Ferrari accessories and look quite nice. I had a set on my NF2s with rubber tire valves (part of aftermarket TPMS) to brighten up the black rubber.
Taz, never had them pinched? What was the cost? Reminds me to query you all on a guess as to Ferrari's profit margin on the $1500. or so dollars (?) charged for the shields?

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575M Arm Rest

Hello All,

I came across a 2003 575M that has an arm rest, that I've also seen in a window sticker described as a "tunnel glove compartment" in the same Daytona colour and material as the seats and have a few questions (see photo below).

1. How rare is an arm rest/tunnel glove compartment in a 575M?
2. Would it have always been upholstered in the same material and colours as the seats?
3. How does it would open since it looks to be pressed against the back wall in this photo?

The window sticker price was $552 in 2003.

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Hello All,

I came across a 2003 575M that has an arm rest, that I've also seen in a window sticker described as a "tunnel glove compartment" in the same Daytona colour and material as the seats and have a few questions (see photo below).

1. How rare is an arm rest/tunnel glove compartment in a 575M?
2. Would it have always been upholstered in the same material and colours as the seats?
3. How does it would open since it looks to be pressed against the back wall in this photo?

The window sticker price was $552 in 2003.

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Gianni,

The only rear glove compartment optional for 575m that i know is on follow table, i think that is on your car picture is aftermarket thing, but i'm not sure, I think Terry can help you.

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Gianni- Like Fabio said, that is a custom piece and bears no resemblance to the factory tunnel glove box. Here is what those look like on the 575M. Not a common option and covered in the same color leather as the seats and door panels, including stitching.
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Gianni, don't know if this was an option or not, but my SA has the same, as shown.

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Gianni, don't know if this was an option or not, but my SA has the same, as shown.

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impressions of your SA? ...
great ... true?

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Fabio, I have not been behind the wheels long enough to make any kind of comments.

I am planning to drive to work today, so that should enlighten this dead brain of mine to make some kind of impressions. (BTW, it is only 02:47 AM Wednesday here...).

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Fabio, I have not been behind the wheels long enough to make any kind of comments.

I am planning to drive to work today, so that should enlighten this dead brain of mine to make some kind of impressions. (BTW, it is only 02:47 AM Wednesday here...).

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you get up very early ....


here are the 18:50 PM .. from few minutes i will go home to my wife and the to the little L ....

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you get up very early ....


here are the 18:50 PM .. from few minutes i will go home to my wife and the to the little L ....

You have a good day !!!!
Fabio, seems like it is getting worse. But then, getting up early is nothing new to me, tracing back to my elementary days when I used to get up around 5am to get to school.

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Fabio, seems like it is getting worse. But then, getting up early is nothing new to me, tracing back to my elementary days when I used to get up around 5am to get to school.

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