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View Poll Results: 550, 575 or 599
550 96 36.09%
575 64 24.06%
599 106 39.85%
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post #141 of 185 Old 10-26-2012, 05:28 AM
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Sounds very nice! Looking forward to the pics.

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Onno is your car a 330GTC or a 365GTC?
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Onno is your car a 330GTC or a 365GTC?
It is a stunning 330 GTC.
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Poll is a pretty good representation of production numbers for the 3 Ferraris. 3083 550s, 2064 575Ms, and 3000-4000 599s (have not seen production numbers yet on 599).

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Poll is a pretty good representation of production numbers for the 3 Ferraris. 3083 550s, 2064 575Ms, and 3000-4000 599s (have not seen production numbers yet on 599).
Very interesting observation.

Come to think of it, have not heard any final production numbers on the 599 either.
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I personally have always had a fetish for the 575 M's. I appreciate the 456GT, and like the styling cues
of the 550 and 575 M. The 599 is interesting, not sure why it never seduced me. However, I do like the F12.

So, 575 M for this gentlemen over-here.

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Owning the three, I think I can share my point of view.


Each car has its own role, so the three are delicious, each in a different way, what its surprising as the 550 and 575 seem so similar at first glance.


The 550 is very well planted on the road, the manual gearbox enhances the driving experience compared to the latter siblings a lot, its a little bit richer in low down torque compared to the 575 but the 575 is sharper at the higher end of the rev-counter. Chassis-wise, 550 and 575 are confortable and supple at cruising speed, but on the limit the differences appear, maybe more evident in my units as the 550 has 18" rims and the 575M has got the modular 19"s. The 550 filters more, the fatter side walls deal better with bumps and ruffled tarmac, while the 575M on 19s makes them more present, and the 550 tends more to understeer, so its safer maybe for the average driver. The 575M reveals itself as quicker, more neutral, more balanced proposition. Yes, its more direct and input-wise, so feels a bit more nervous but get things right and its faster around the bends, its more focused, yet it needs a little bit more care and attention when driven fast. The F1, by today´s standards is dated. The worse double-clutch or six/eight-speed modern automatic is faster changing gear.


The 599 is a world apart. Much wider, the car feels so much planted on the road, the limit seems sky high. But the engine is the predominant theme on this car. What an engine. Its simply bombastic. Amazing torque in any gear, at times way too much. The 550 and 575 can be driven at legal speeds as long as you are gentle with the throttle... the 599s engine is so fierce you simply cant. Its so powerful and brute you´re always driving faster than you think you are. And the cabin is so much comfortable and well isolated compared to its older sisters that doesn't help in this issue. So, wanted or not, the 599 is always running fast, with little notice from the driver seat or none even. And that´s maybe the real goal for the 599, its able to go so quickly with zero effort, in total normality from the drivers seat, it amuses. And then, pushed to the limit, boy it entertains. You really need to be prepared for such a beast, deploying 620HP with such torque is not for everybody. But its safe as past the limit its first reaction is understeer. Just be gentle with the throttle past the apex and the driver aids will help you make -lightning fast- progress. Turn the aids off and depends on you (gentle gas inputs and everything will go fine, be smart on the throttle and oversteer will appear, for fun or not, depends on the driver). Downsides? Size, its much wider, doesn't fell bigger behind the wheel but you do notice the lanes seems to be much narrower. That's the toll, size.


So, in my humild opinion, the 550 is a really fantastic GT. Comfortable, fast, driver focused under spirited driving, but safe in all terms and perfectly tamed when not pushed. The 575 is almost the same but with a spicier edge when driven fast, a little bit more capable but also that bit more demanding. And then comes the 599, another planet, a car around and engine (THE ENGINE, INDEED), much more capable in every term, lightning fast, easy to drive quickly but not tamed in any manner. You have to be aware of the speedo all the time if you want to preserve your license, and the country roads at times are too small for her... but when you return home and park her you have a smile for the rest of the day nobody will be capable of erasing it.
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I just wanted to say that your description of the 3 cars seems extremely accurate, and I agree with your statement that all 3 cars are delicious and highly desirable. As far as appearance goes its a matter of taste, but I do like all 3 (the 550 and 575 being so close that from appearance sake we are almost talking about the same car). As opposed to others who have posted here, I think the 599 looks amazing, and would love to have one in my driveway. The form flows beautifully and the flying buttresses add an extra edge to the design (whether they are functional as claimed or not). In fact, I am trying to figure out a way to upgrade my 575 to a 599, but it won't be this year.

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Owning the three, I think I can share my point of view.


Each car has its own role, so the three are delicious, each in a different way, what its surprising as the 550 and 575 seem so similar at first glance.


The 550 is very well planted on the road, the manual gearbox enhances the driving experience compared to the latter siblings a lot, its a little bit richer in low down torque compared to the 575 but the 575 is sharper at the higher end of the rev-counter. Chassis-wise, 550 and 575 are confortable and supple at cruising speed, but on the limit the differences appear, maybe more evident in my units as the 550 has 18" rims and the 575M has got the modular 19"s. The 550 filters more, the fatter side walls deal better with bumps and ruffled tarmac, while the 575M on 19s makes them more present, and the 550 tends more to understeer, so its safer maybe for the average driver. The 575M reveals itself as quicker, more neutral, more balanced proposition. Yes, its more direct and input-wise, so feels a bit more nervous but get things right and its faster around the bends, its more focused, yet it needs a little bit more care and attention when driven fast. The F1, by today´s standards is dated. The worse double-clutch or six/eight-speed modern automatic is faster changing gear.


The 599 is a world apart. Much wider, the car feels so much planted on the road, the limit seems sky high. But the engine is the predominant theme on this car. What an engine. Its simply bombastic. Amazing torque in any gear, at times way too much. The 550 and 575 can be driven at legal speeds as long as you are gentle with the throttle... the 599s engine is so fierce you simply cant. Its so powerful and brute you´re always driving faster than you think you are. And the cabin is so much comfortable and well isolated compared to its older sisters that doesn't help in this issue. So, wanted or not, the 599 is always running fast, with little notice from the driver seat or none even. And that´s maybe the real goal for the 599, its able to go so quickly with zero effort, in total normality from the drivers seat, it amuses. And then, pushed to the limit, boy it entertains. You really need to be prepared for such a beast, deploying 620HP with such torque is not for everybody. But its safe as past the limit its first reaction is understeer. Just be gentle with the throttle past the apex and the driver aids will help you make -lightning fast- progress. Turn the aids off and depends on you (gentle gas inputs and everything will go fine, be smart on the throttle and oversteer will appear, for fun or not, depends on the driver). Downsides? Size, its much wider, doesn't fell bigger behind the wheel but you do notice the lanes seems to be much narrower. That's the toll, size.


So, in my humild opinion, the 550 is a really fantastic GT. Comfortable, fast, driver focused under spirited driving, but safe in all terms and perfectly tamed when not pushed. The 575 is almost the same but with a spicier edge when driven fast, a little bit more capable but also that bit more demanding. And then comes the 599, another planet, a car around and engine (THE ENGINE, INDEED), much more capable in every term, lightning fast, easy to drive quickly but not tamed in any manner. You have to be aware of the speedo all the time if you want to preserve your license, and the country roads at times are too small for her... but when you return home and park her you have a smile for the rest of the day nobody will be capable of erasing it.
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Have you ever seen a 550 or 575 next to a 599? It's astonishing just how much bigger the 599 is. It just dwarfs the earlier cars. (See pic).

From a performance perspective, the 599 is leagues better and is incredibly powerful. It is also part of an incredible family; including GTO, Aperta SA, 599XX & 599XX EVO, 60F1, and some one-off models as well. Quite the platform.

Otherwise I would go with 550 for the manual transmission.
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It's astonishing just how much bigger the 599 is. It just dwarfs the earlier cars. (See pic).
Yes, longer and taller (and wider, although obviously that doesn't show in the picture). But almost identical weight.

IMO 550/75 is a much more elegant car. If I were going to "trade up", I would by-pass the 599 and go straight to the F12. But I shall probably stick with my 550, which does everything I want and is more than fast enough.

Interestingly, the F12 is shorter, lower, narrower and lighter than the 599, as well as, IMO, better looking.

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Here is the whole set, so you can see most dimensions. Note the wheelbase increases from 2500 mm to 2750 mm, too. Even the 456 is only 2600 mm. Because of the aluminum chassis, though, weighs about the same.
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Hallo at all,
follow my little contribute of the comparison between 599 and Maranello's ...
Is my overlap of the body envelope of 599 and 550/575.
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Hallo at all,
follow my little contribute of the comparison between 599 and Maranello's ...
Is my overlap of the body envelope of 599 and 550/575.
Beautiful contribution, vividly demonstrating how the engineers' effort to place the engine back of the front axle centerline forced Pininfarina and Frank Stephenson to create a design that to my eye is just too big and bulky for a Ferrari GT berlinetta.

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Beautiful contribution, vividly demonstrating how the engineers' effort to place the engine back of the front axle centerline forced Pininfarina and Frank Stephenson to create a design that to my eye is just too big and bulky for a Ferrari GT berlinetta.
I agree Seth,
Sitting side by side with a 550/575 the 599 certainly does look too big and bulky. The color of the 599 in the photos may be contributing to that as well, a grey or black 599 may have looked sleeker beside the 550. What's odd is that when the 599 is seen in isolation, the car looks beautiful and doesn't appear too large or bulky, its only when sitting next to a 550/575 that it appears this way. Anyway they are ultimately all beautiful designs and its just a matter of personal taste of which one is more beautiful in the end.
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its just a matter of personal taste of which one is more beautiful in the end.
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My personal taste is without any doubt in favour of the Maranello. 599 looks crass in comparison. Not that I am in any way biased, you understand . . .

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My personal taste is without any doubt in favour of the Maranello. 599 looks crass in comparison. Not that I am in any way biased, you understand . . .
As an owner of a 575M Maranello, I happen to like both cars. I freely admit that the 575M is sleeker (sharklike) and less heavy looking (even though it is heavier) when compared side by side with the 599. The 575 has more of a classic Ferrari look to it with little design elements that harken back to the 250 GTO. The 599 is a completely new more modern design language and more of a departure from any previous front engine Ferrari. Perhaps that's why many here are not fond of it (besides the size). I happen to like it. I would also like the 620 HP it comes with and the faster F1 box, the only problem is that because of its size it may not actually fit in my small garage. Have a look at how my 575 barely fits.
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As an owner of a 575M Maranello, I happen to like both cars. I freely admit that the 575M is sleeker (sharklike) and less heavy looking (even though it is heavier) when compared side by side with the 599. The 575 has more of a classic Ferrari look to it with little design elements that harken back to the 250 GTO. The 599 is a completely new more modern design language and more of a departure from any previous front engine Ferrari. Perhaps that's why many here are not fond of it (besides the size). I happen to like it. I would also like the 620 HP it comes with and the faster F1 box, the only problem is that because of its size it may not actually fit in my small garage. Have a look at how my 575 barely fits.
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Clyde, it will just fit but only just. However! you will need to fold in the external mirrors, then lock the steering wheel since you will have to push it back into place - and of course pull it out when driving is needed - since there is no way you could exit the car it you drove it into place :-)

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Love this discussion! I've admired greatly the 599 since it was launched. Those curves are Penélope Cruz the night she met Bond, luscious and epic in red. It's wide like a supercar can be, low slung front end, perched on its rear haunches, growling 12 cylinders that erupt into a cacophonous howl when summed for duty. I'm getting one, and these are the reasons.
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Love this discussion! I've admired greatly the 599 since it was launched. Those curves are Penélope Cruz the night she met Bond, luscious and epic in red. It's wide like a supercar can be, low slung front end, perched on its rear haunches, growling 12 cylinders that erupt into a cacophonous howl when summed for duty. I'm getting one, and these are the reasons.

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Clyde, it will just fit but only just. However! you will need to fold in the external mirrors, then lock the steering wheel since you will have to push it back into place - and of course pull it out when driving is needed - since there is no way you could exit the car it you drove it into place :-)
Yes looking very much like my next Ferrari may have to be a mid-engine V8 if I plan to continue living in this house (along with my Maranello which I still plan to keep but perhaps offsite).

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