550, 575 or 599? - Page 4 - Ferrari Life
View Poll Results: 550, 575 or 599
550 96 36.09%
575 64 24.06%
599 106 39.85%
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post #61 of 185 Old 04-11-2011, 10:12 AM
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I've had my 550 for just one week now, and I already prefer it to my 430. I've taken it on two drives: a blast down my favorite back road and a cruise down the highway, and it's been remarkable in both contexts. I don't know if it's the smoothness of the V-12, the satisfaction of manually switching gears, the comfort of the seats, or the luxurious feel imparted by the cuoio interior, but the car is a pure joy to drive. I am slowly beginning to understand the V-12 Ferrari Mystique. In fact, I took my 430 out for a drive today and wished I was in the 550 instead.

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Overall servicing costs should be less expensive on a 550 than a 512 TR simply due to the fact that the engine does not need to come out to change the cambelts on the 550. If it is a 97 model year 550, make sure all the updates have been done (suggest you also read the Buyers Guide: Ferrari Buyer's Guides - Ferrari Life ) . They are very different cars and you really need to drive both to see which you prefer.
thanks. Yes, I imagine they are completely different cars. Do you think the green "verde inglese" is a colour more difficult to resell?
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thanks. Yes, I imagine they are completely different cars. Do you think the green "verde inglese" is a colour more difficult to resell?
Red or black are the easiest resale colors.
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Do you think the green "verde inglese" is a colour more difficult to resell?
Sheehan's comment on the Verde was "resale proof". Don't know that I'd go that far, there are one of two listed by members. However, there are two others that have been for sale for quite some time.
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David- I agree. Green actually works very well on Maranellos and 456s, which have somewhat Jaguarish lines. An owner here in Albuquerque has a Verde Zeltweg 550 with tan interior, and it is very attractive. There were two greens available for 456/Ms and 550s, one metallic and one not, and both look very nice.

Incidentally, I think it is impossible to make a choice between a Maranello and a 599 without taking price into account. Just like it is impossible to do the same for a 365 GTC/4 and a 365 GTB/4. For rich guys, maybe not, but for real owners, the price makes a huge difference.

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Overall servicing costs should be less expensive on a 550 than a 512 TR simply due to the fact that the engine does not need to come out to change the cambelts on the 550. If it is a 97 model year 550, make sure all the updates have been done (suggest you also read the Buyers Guide: Ferrari Buyer's Guides - Ferrari Life ) . They are very different cars and you really need to drive both to see which you prefer.
I saw the "overall servicing costs" point and it caused me, for the first time, to go back over and add up the 5 invoices for work done at the local Ferrari Agent over the life of the car so far.

Mfr. March 2006. 9,600Km to date.

Has had the following work over the 5 year period. No outstanding or deferred maintenance.

Annual service each year (following the check list, changing lubricants etc etc)
New Battery.
New Cambelt, Bearings and Pulley Tighteners etc (everything around this)
All interior plastic and switches "de-stickied"...refinished.
TPMS sensors replaced.
All 6 gas struts/springs including roof supports.
Clean polish/detail with each service.

Total cost = USD 10,800

Apart from adding the gasoline for 9.600 Km over 5 years, this does not seem too bad to me.

(I just spent USD6,000 on one (this years) annual service for my MB280E which is about the same age (although 42,000 Km)!

Thought you might be interested. Not sure how that compares or whether we can even compare costs for parts and labour in other countries?

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Sir Paul, That does seem pretty reasonable and inline with what I would expect on a 550 or 575. Basically $2k a year.
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Paul- I agree with Boxer. Including a cambelt change, those costs are reasonable, especially since they included a detail every year.

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+1. Thanks for adding it all up, I haven't seen much info on 599 costs.


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599's are now dipping just under the GBP 100k line in the UK. With 575s in the GBP 60k range, I would hazard a guess that 599s do not have that much further to go, maybe another GBP 20-25k of depreciation over the next 2-3 years.
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I see no reason why the 599 can't go down to current 550 levels. The passage of time wreaks havoc on V12 pricing, and with mileage per owner increasing and the F1 gearbox requiring rebuilds after 40k miles or so, I predict the 599 has a lot further to fall, but it will go gradually.

Don't forget - only 4 years ago I bought my 550 for €105k which was a reasonable price at the time. At the time, we all predicted the 550 wasn't going to fall much further. How wrong we were.


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Don't forget - only 4 years ago I bought my 550 for 105k which was a reasonable price at the time. At the time, we all predicted the 550 wasn't going to fall much further. How wrong we were.
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I see no reason why the 599 can't go down to current 550 levels. The passage of time wreaks havoc on V12 pricing, and with mileage per owner increasing and the F1 gearbox requiring rebuilds after 40k miles or so, I predict the 599 has a lot further to fall, but it will go gradually.

Don't forget - only 4 years ago I bought my 550 for 105k which was a reasonable price at the time. At the time, we all predicted the 550 wasn't going to fall much further. How wrong we were.


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Let's not forget the 599 is a more complex car to maintain. In the future you will still need to take it to a Ferrari dealer, given the electronics. Maranellos are much more simple cars, and specialists will have it easier to service them.

This will definitely impact the values of the 599.

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I think it is interesting to see the poll results. Ultimately this may be the same as the future thinking.......if the electronics don't become an issue. My guess [worth nothing] is that the 550 will become the leader in popularity 15 yrs from now. My simplistic reasoning is that the 550 is the most old world Ferrari of their contemporary V12s. I think the 550 as the Daytona recreated to be fun at any speed.

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Onno- Common misconception on the F1 cars. The transmissions are identical to the manual shifter cars and will not require rebuilding any more frequently than the manual shifter transmissions do. The F1 shifter mechanisms have gotten tougher and easier to maintain as they have progressed. Clutch wear seems to be accelerated for many F1 owners, but that is because of the way they drive them. Not a problem on the 599, which has a dual plate clutch that is tough as nails.

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I like the 550, out of those 3 options.

Whenever a new car model comes out, I don't know if it's an acquired taste or something, but I always am in love still w/ the looks of the older, previous version.
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I was just thinking about this subject yesterday. If plans work out, I should be looking for my first Ferrari in 2012.
I wondered, should I go for the car that first attracted me to the brand, the 550 or the 599. Then I thought the 575 would be best since it is supposed to be more reliable than the 550. Since they are nearly identical, I'm combining the two.
Just as I was pondering this subject, low and behold.....there was one in traffic. Right in front of me. Haven't seen one on the road in years and there it was. I saw this as a sign.

Most will disagree but I think the 550/575 is the best looking car ever made. Across all brands. It's not the best driver and definitely not the best track car. But I'm not looking for optimum speed. The few times I visit the track will be for the enjoyment of wringing it out.
I'm looking for a spirited blvd cruizer. I'm looking for the look I love, long hood, sleek body with short rear deck and low slung...but not too low. This car is perfect for me. It has style without fussy lines and curves.

In short, it's my all-time favorite car.

The 599 will come later.
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Welcome to FL, Ice 350. Tell us more on yourself.

Well, looks like you already have your mind made up. That's good, to know what you like. I am not an expert on these so I shall let the others chime in. w/ smiles Jimmy
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Welcome to FL, Ice 350. Tell us more on yourself.

Well, looks like you already have your mind made up. That's good, to know what you like. I am not an expert on these so I shall let the others chime in. w/ smiles Jimmy
No one has ever asked me for personal info on a forum, how refreshing!

I'm just a regular guy who has worked over 25 years as a social worker. But I'm about to go into business with a friend and if all goes well, it will change my life. It will also change the lives of others as we will make a huge dent in the economy for thousands of people. I can't say more about it yet but I will down the road.

I have always been a car nut. Every since my dad told me to buy a 911 for my first car (that I was paying for). He told me to continue living at home and don't worry about paying bills. Go get a Porsche. I didn't do it. Instead I got my own apartment.....but I started reading about cars and never stopped.

Last week my wife said, "you're gonna be able to be a true collector now, buy all the cars you want. Don't hold back." I intend to be a good steward of the money and refuse to go wild but I will indulge in a couple of cars.
One will be a 550/575. The other, a 911...the new model 991.

Currently, wifey and I drive his and hers Lexus GS350. Modded with wheels, drop and a few other things.

Well, you asked. It's a bit wordy but it's dangerous to ask questions of social workers. We love to talk.

I hope to learn a lot about Ferrari's on this site.

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No one has ever asked me for personal info on a forum, how refreshing!

I'm just a regular guy who has worked over 25 years as a social worker. But I'm about to go into business with a friend and if all goes well, it will change my life. It will also change the lives of others as we will make a huge dent in the economy for thousands of people. I can't say more about it yet but I will down the road.

I have always been a car nut. Every since my dad told me to buy a 911 for my first car (that I was paying for). He told me to continue living at home and don't worry about paying bills. Go get a Porsche. I didn't do it. Instead I got my own apartment.....but I started reading about cars and never stopped.

Last week my wife said, "you're gonna be able to be a true collector now, buy all the cars you want. Don't hold back." I intend to be a good steward of the money and refuse to go wild but I will indulge in a couple of cars.
One will be a 550/575. The other, a 911...the new model 991.

Currently, wifey and I drive his and hers Lexus GS350. Modded with wheels, drop and a few other things.

Well, you asked. It's a bit wordy but it's dangerous to ask questions of social workers. We love to talk.

I hope to learn a lot about Ferrari's on this site.

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Wonderful beginning, Reggie ! I feel that many of the members here on FL are much more open minded, close, and respect others' values and this in turn shows as our mutual tolerance. One thing for sure is that we all love and enjoy cars, whether the marks are F or P or what have you.

The only reason I suggested the intro was so that we get to know the members better. Thanx for the honesty.

Congratulations and best of luck in your future endeavors, Reggie. Looking forward to your questions and inputs. w/ smiles Jimmy
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