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post #1 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 03:11 AM Thread Starter
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355 GTS. Just delivered with problems

been looking for a yr. have had sound advise and gained much from this site, which is fabulous resource.
Bought 99 silver / black GTS manual, 18,500 miles. 3 owners from Methany imports, Jag / LR dealer in Jacksonville. FL USA.
Basically car was not driven for at least 6 months, belt change feb 2011, and spoke to garage mechanic 'trained at factory'.
Car finally arrived yesterday.
Started car.
Misfire on at least 2 cylinders.
Oil extremely dirty and low
Indicators not working
Fuel filler cap not working - duck taped on after they filled up car.
Took straight to my mechanic, who services everything in LA from F50 to E types, he couldn't believe they delivered a car in this mechanical condition and spent a day and did OBD test etc. couldn't find cause of fault, so going back Monday. Not spark plugs, prob injectors or fuel pump and prob contaminated fuel.

Any suggested recourse for extremely dishonest dealer and salesman??
Have stopped Amex deposit already.

What's the best oil & coolant for hot temps here on west coast?

Car needs a bit of TLC, shrinkage on dash and airbag.
AC panel replace - which is easy I read.
Apart from the thorough disappointment from the dealer, the car looks great and handles v well.

Needs exhaust and will remove CATS
Add clear indicators too.

All suggestions greatly appreciated.
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post #2 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 04:36 AM
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Sorry to hear. I was wondering who bought that car.
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I agree with everyone, sorry to hear about your issues.

I'm having similar problems, but I dont think mine are as extensive

Curious, did you have a PPI before purchasing, or just spoke to the mechanic? Couldn't tell from your original post.

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Do not remove the cats unless you are planning on replacing with sport cats. Illegal, and you will never pass an emissions test without them. If one is plugged, though, could be part of the problem.

Any good full synthetic 5W-40 will work for the oil. I use Valvoline, many like Redline, and the factory now recommends Shell, Quaker State Q, or Pennzoil Ultra Euro.

For anti-freeze I use Valvoline Zerex G-05, but there are others out there, as well. Make sure it says optimized for aluminum.

Spark plug wires could be a problem, as could one of the coil packs.

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Thanks for feed back.
The pre purchase inspection was done by the mechanic and he also sent me leak test 'results' which I suspect were old or just a lie.
That's the issue with buying a car 3,000 miles away and using words like 'trust'. I even had my good friends at Galpin Jag / Aston Martin check them out.
My mechanic is pretty good and I knew I would need to spend a few $$$, but not upon delivery!!!!
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Nicholas- See you are actually in Louisiana, not L.A., so the cats are not as big a deal, but still illegal to remove, but likely nobody will care.

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The colour combination is beautiful and the 355 GTS is a great car. Commit to making it perfect and try to forget about the costs and start enjoying it! If you make it a keeper you will forget the repair costs for every year that passes. I had a GTS red/black and I loved it. I will not be surprised if I own one again some day.

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Thanks again for support. Yes. Will do upgrades.
Will advise what the seller response is to my invitation to correct issues.

Where can I get clear / white front indicators?
Have seen a few examples and Thinking to have front grill re sprayed silver. Thoughts??
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Thanks again for support. Yes. Will do upgrades.
Will advise what the seller response is to my invitation to correct issues.

Where can I get clear / white front indicators?
Have seen a few examples and Thinking to have front grill re sprayed silver. Thoughts??
I'm pretty sure Daniel at Ricambi America can source the white/clear turn lenses. FYI - they're not cheap - something like $2-300 per side (it's an entire assembly).

Good luck getting everything resolved. You won't regret it (the cost) once it's tuned up right.
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It looks spectacular!

Would much rather have mechanical than body issues - one can be fixed and I agree with Sandy as once it's all in order it will be worth the effort.
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How has the seller responded?
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post #13 of 20 Old 05-11-2013, 05:31 PM Thread Starter
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Hi everyone, thanks for advise.
Got a fabulous BS response from the sales guys - I forwarded onto My local Jag/Aston dealer and Ferrari too - they can't believe the lameness of this response;

Hi Nicholas,

I too am surprised and disappointed to hear that you received your 1999 Ferrari with serious
mechanical issues. I felt I had provided you with all the information that you had requested,
including access to the local Ferrari tech who has serviced the car as well as a copy of the most
recent pre-purchase inspection performed by that tech. You also had the option to have the car
inspected again by Steve or any other qualfied Ferrari technician of your choice. I can assure you
that I was not aware of any mis-firing on any of the cylinders nor did the driver who drove the car
onto the truck note any mis-firing. I also was unaware of any problems with the fuel filler mechanism
or the turn signals. I agree that the fuel had probably been in the car since we've had it, but the
fuel system is sealed hence, the fuel should not be contaminated. It sounds to me like someone is
trying to sell you a very expensive 'service'.

I have never been accused of gross mis-representation and fraud, and that was not the case in this
transaction. I also am not authorized to do anything to resolve your complaints.


THE INTERSTING THING IS THAT THE TRUCK DRIVER WAS NEXT TO ME WHEN I FIRST STARTED THE CAR AND HEARD AND AGREED THAT IT CLEARLY HAD A MISFIRE.
IM NOW GETTING A FULL INSPECTION AND REPORT PUT TOGETHER ON THE CAR.
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So sorry,

Make the car mechanically perfect and move on.

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Why didn't you do a PPI ? It would have saved you a lot of grief. The sales guy is right, you had every opportunity and every bit of info available to you. It's a used car and one which is notorious for gremlins when barely driven. What did you expect?

Instead of stewing about it; get her tuned up and you won't regret it one bit.
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Hi Sandy, you are not to know that in fact the local mechanic who had done last 2 yrs servicing and PPI and leak test 1 month before I bought the car sent me hiss service records, whichninnturn I had reviewed by Ferrari locally and my own mechanic, so I felt pretty safe given the tests and supposed service (which may turn out to be false). Either way i am having the car fixed and looking forward to actually driving it.
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Have a good/rep mech diagnose and look it over. See what is involved for a sound qualified business to get it ready. After that you 'may' have 1-2 ways to go: drive it and move on, drive it and reference the fix from fixing mechanic to understand the issues.

but, as said, they are claiming pristine in order car and good rep on their side and therefore '"it's the other guys". may be a pizzzing contest none will win.

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Either way i am having the car fixed and looking forward to actually driving it.
Great attitude. Let sleeping dogs lie (double entendre intentional) and chalk it up to a learning experience. These cars should NEVER sit for six weeks, let alone six MONTHS.

Fix it and enjoy it for many years to come!

Fantastic color and yes on clear lenses option.
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Update

Car was finally picked up after me being away and car being sorted out, then driven 150 miles, then shed alternator belt, due to a untightened bolt buried in the back of the engine, (from previous owner shoddy service). So AAA to my mechanic for another 550$$.
Now belts are good, engine running well and totally loving the car. It's really a great car to drive, nimble, responsive, and faster then one might think. Also SUCH a gorgeous car to look at.
Get great comments from public every time car is out.
I just returned from both Modena testing F12 and Avantador Roadster and I swear I prefer the 355! It's a real drivers car.
Brakes aren't quite what they could be, upgrade pads???
but 6 speed with top off is fab.
x-ost coming soon with test pipes, and K&N filters too. Looking forward to that.

Now need to upgrade speakers and add amplifier and sub (somewhere). Any advise greatly appreciated. Thinking to buy Alpine stuff online, keep pioneer head unit which is quite new. Remove carpet, change speakers and tweeters, small woofer in front trunk.
Any idea on speaker sizes / dimensions that fit OEM holes??
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Glad to hear about the happy ending to this story - thanks for the update!
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