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post #1 of 15 Old 06-16-2013, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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'08 Scuderia Help

I have been a lurker for a few weeks and have found this site valuable as I began my search as a first time Ferrari buyer. I've looked at a few cars and may have found "the one" but have a few questions for this group.

The car has around 5k miles, and generally very clean as a red/black scuderia. It comes with these options: carbon package, stripe, radio/nav, black alcantara w red stitching. Clutch wear is at 7% and told brakes look good as well (before ppi). It is being offered for sale at an authorized Ferrari dealer. Here are my questions for the group:

1. Car has had three prior owners...less is usually better but how should this impact sale price? I plan to drive and hold the car for at least 3 years.
2. I drove out to see the car and is is generally very clean...but was not yet serviced or detailed. Biggest concern: front spoiler was slightly cracked by air intake scoop and appears prior owner hit a curb. Dealer will remove, repair, and respray damaged area. How much should I be concerned with this if at all?
3. SD3 repot shows a value of "1" under new clutch count. When I asked, dealer inquired with FNA and reported that was the normal value. Car has original clutch.
4. There is some minor fading of carbon fiber in engine compartment and dealer offered to restore. I'm good with that.
5. Is it normal for the authorized dealer to also perform the PPI if I'm going with the CPO?

Everything else checks out, and wanted to check with this group on what market value would be for this. It appears that asking prices for '08 Scuderia are mid 170-high 180. Based on the factors I listed, what would be a reasonable offer price?

I appreciate the help!
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Welcome to FL, in answer to some of your q's....

1. 3 owners is not at all usual for an 08 Ferrari, most clients buy, have fun, flip and onto the next one, so no issue.
2. Have the Dealer remove the front bumper and if all metal bracing/framework is ok then no issue again.
3. No issue.
4. Agreed.
5. It is not normal for the seller to PPI the car, that's a conflict of interest and I have an issue with that, highly advise you get an Independant PPI done.

Sounds like a really nice example, good luck as they're great Ferrari's!

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I appreciate the quick reply. I decided to pull the trigger and put down a deposit. Next step is PPI at an independent dealer and expect things to go well (but that's why we do a PPI). The car is being offered for sale through Ferrari of Long Island. Since this is a certified car, I have the option of buying the one year warranty. Based on searches and conversations, it seems like the group is split - roughly 50% go for the peace of mind and 50% see it as unnecessary due to what it actually covers. Any other thoughts to help a first time buyer go one way or the other for a 3500 mile '08 Scuderia?
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I appreciate the quick reply. I decided to pull the trigger and put down a deposit. Next step is PPI at an independent dealer and expect things to go well (but that's why we do a PPI). The car is being offered for sale through Ferrari of Long Island. Since this is a certified car, I have the option of buying the one year warranty. Based on searches and conversations, it seems like the group is split - roughly 50% go for the peace of mind and 50% see it as unnecessary due to what it actually covers. Any other thoughts to help a first time buyer go one way or the other for a 3500 mile '08 Scuderia?
Welcome Wilky,

I took up the warranty when I bought my 16M in January. My thinking was that if anything was drastically wrong with the car, then it would reveal itself within the year. So far so good but I won't renew it next year, just to save a 'little hard earned'.

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Get them to put skid plates under the front bumper if they are not already on the car. Wrap the front bumper with Xpel Ultimate after it's painted and before driving. Check the headlights for the mold / condensation issue. How are they going to refinish the faded carbon fiber pieces? Make sure they do a good check on the rotors.

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Get them to put skid plates under the front bumper if they are not already on the car. Wrap the front bumper with Xpel Ultimate after it's painted and before driving. Check the headlights for the mold / condensation issue. How are they going to refinish the faded carbon fiber pieces? Make sure they do a good check on the rotors.
Mark love your cars that I have seen here, esp that giallo 16M. I took mine out for a spin last night, as it was my first rain-free opportunity for nearly two weeks and I was in severe withdrawal. Cold night, top down and loved it. But I noticed that small areas of condensation appeared at the tip of the headlights when the car had cooled down. Luckily, it has resolved by this morning and without any residue. Do you have any recommendations regarding preventing this?

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Mark love your cars that I have seen here, esp that giallo 16M. I took mine out for a spin last night, as it was my first rain-free opportunity for nearly two weeks and I was in severe withdrawal. Cold night, top down and loved it. But I noticed that small areas of condensation appeared at the tip of the headlights when the car had cooled down. Luckily, it has resolved by this morning and without any residue. Do you have any recommendations regarding preventing this?
Run with your headlights on to evaporate any moisture. After washing your car, go drive it with lights on.

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Run with your headlights on to evaporate any moisture. After washing your car, go drive it with lights on.
Thanks for the advice Mark. Strange as I went at night so my lights were on all the time. I'll try letting it warm down with lights on in the garage after my next cold run.

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Long Island PPI

Did you buy the car yet? If not and you need a PPi in LI lmk and Ill recommend someone great.
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If it's the car I am thinking it is, looks like it's still on the market.

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Quick update...I have a deposit down on the car with sale pending PPI. It is the Scuderia currently being offered through Ferrari of Long Island as a CPO. The car is being shipped to Algar for PPI (Algar is local for me) and if all goes well should have possession by week's end. This site has been a great help to me during the search, and appreciate this group's advice.
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Great to hear, hope all goes well as they are superb Supercars!!!!

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great to hear.
I had a tough time trying to buy a car there as their prices where off the charts and they were not willing to negotiate to market. Hope you got a good deal.
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The PPI came back clean, with clutch measured less than 7% and brakes at 3%. There were no other issues found - outside of needing tires next year (Michelin Pilot Super Sports?). I believe a got a fair deal, and used some of the pricing guides that others have posted for the Scuderia. I hope to have it in my possession with pics by the end of the week!
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The PPI came back clean, with clutch measured less than 7% and brakes at 3%. There were no other issues found - outside of needing tires next year (Michelin Pilot Super Sports?). I believe a got a fair deal, and used some of the pricing guides that others have posted for the Scuderia. I hope to have it in my possession with pics by the end of the week!
Yes, go with the Michelin, much better grip and longer life than the crapelli's. Bridgestone RE-11's are an option, but they are noisy on the road. Do the Michelin's next year.

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