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post #1 of 34 Old 02-14-2013, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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About to buy 456m GT - Your opinion highly valued!

Hey guys,

I am very close to buy this one. Had a few good conversations with the dealer and will visit next week to check the car. Only one previous owner, originally came from Italy. Tires like new.

http://www.autoscout24.eu/Details.as...000&asrc=fa|fs

I have asked him about the usual suspects I am aware of on the 456m:

- Windows
- Belt and tensioner
- Leather
- Engine Mounts
- Radiator Hoses
- Rear Suspension Spheres
- Fuel Pump rubber mounts
- Clutch
- Check fuse box for any heat damage
- CAT Temp sensors (check CEL lights)
- Alarm system
- Dash
- Rear Shock Absorbers leaking
- Windows
- Belt change
- Leather
- Stone chips


He says he is very confident in the condition of the car and will do the full 20.000 km service for me incl. belts and transport it down to my home town if I decide to go for it. Seems keen on building long term relationship, happy to pick up the car and take it to his shop (500km away) for service if I ask to etc. Heard good things about the place in general so far.

Car will get full independent review from Dekra (Largest German inspection company) as well before delivery.

What do you think? Any comments? Am quite excited, but also not necessarily in the hurry. This seems like a good opportunity though and I want a 456m GT in TdF with either dark or beige interior.

I will probably leave it in garage for a while as I am working abroad at the moment, so any comments on how to best keep it in good condition appreciated.

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post #2 of 34 Old 02-14-2013, 04:36 PM
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Very pretty car Flore, it looks to be in very nice condition with a rare color combination and low miles. I do not know the German market, but in the US, that car would still be overpriced.

However, if it's exactly what you want, then that won't matter much.

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Welcome to the forum!

That's a great looking 456m. If the dealer will take care of everything you mentioned, and the independent inspection goes well, then I'd say go for it.

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post #5 of 34 Old 02-15-2013, 04:35 AM
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GO FOR IT !!!! Those are Great cars !!! My Wife has one that has done only 14K miles.
A true Grand Tourer. . .
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We have one in our region, same color combination.

Looks fantastic.

I agree that the car may be overpriced for US market.

Have you checked the Ferrari Market Newsletter prices recently? They are a FL sponsor.

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post #7 of 34 Old 02-15-2013, 09:56 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hey guys, thanks for the comments!

As for the price - I have seen cheaper ones in US market, but in Europe it does not look so good at the moment (and from what I have observed over the last 1-2 years it has been like this for a while).

You can find very few good 456m GT below EUR 55.000, most of them are in the 60K range from a reputable seller. Granted, some have been on the market for a while but I don't see a lot of cheaper ones out there as alternatives. If they pop up, then usually with lot more miles and private or small dealers.

If anyone with some more insights into the market here wants to chime in, please do.

Anyone has comments on best practices for keeping the car in the garage for a year or two?
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Just keep it on a battery tender and drive it as often as you can!

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I agree...Keep the battery charged and use the disconnect switch located next to the battery lhs front. I find if you do not disconnect the battery it runs flat within 2 weeks (must be some drain. . . electronics etc..)
Great machine !!!!
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post #10 of 34 Old 02-16-2013, 08:34 AM Thread Starter
 
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Confirmed a visit to the car today. Going next Saturday.. quite a trip, but hopefully it's worth it.

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I have seen the car yesterday and all was quite positive, need to sleep over it and await the final inspection papers by DEKRA.

There were a few minor blemishes (door lock button, scratch in trunk loading area, scratched rim from sidewalk, sticky mirror control buttons) but those will be resolved as far as possible.

Car has all documentation possible, incl. all invoices for repairs / inspection (albeit in Italian). Nothing unusual on them from what I can see, I can't see any other red flags either.

One thing I am a bit unsure about is the fact the car only made 2000 km in the last 8 years or so. It had a full inspection in 2009, new tyres and battery as well, and is getting a big inspection with belts now before delivery. I guess this always happens with a 15 year old car with only 17000 km.

I did not have a private PPI, but the general Dekra one, the full inspection it is going to get and the trustworthy dealer is enough for me at this point.

One thing on the window problem on the 456 - there is a gap between front and the back window glass (5mm or so), but the windows align perfectly and the front window sits flush with the rubber sealing - assume this is how it should look like. Will post a photo later.
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It looks like a great car, but i think it's overpriced also for the European market.
At the other end, its getting major service, its an official dealer and a very low miles car...

Good luck!

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Cheers, I pushed the price down a little and yes, getting the service, incl. the cosmetic fixes and truck delivery to my home as well, so that makes it another 4K less or so.

There are not many alternatives out there with that kind of history, milage and from a proper dealer. There are two on autoscout, both with over 50k km and in the 60k EUR range as well.
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Maybe i'm wrong, cant find it anymore on the internet but this dealer got another one right?
Saw it a few weeks ago on the internet, light blue one...
2002 car with 25k km's on it... And it was 56/57k i believe... Did you see that car also?
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Yes I did. Def not as good as the TdF one, plus I don't like the color personally.

http://www.ferrari-eberlein.de/de/fa..._detail68.html
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Flore- Did you decide to take her? Looks very nice.

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Not quite there yet - first Ferrari, I'm quite young. It's a big move, still thinking about it.
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post #18 of 34 Old 02-25-2013, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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Those this window gap seem normal to the 456m owners around here? Unfortunately I don't have a shot where it is fully closed.

They feel fully flush on the rubber sealing with no gap.
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Flore, that a common problem on the 456s and the fix is straight forward.
Do a search and you'll find posts that describe how to fix it.
Also, someone will probably post a link to the company that specializes in this repair.

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I think I know the fix - thanks! - but I am asking whether this 456m seems normal. Purely from touching and trying to open the gap, it seems the windows sit quite tightly on the rubber.
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