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I have been lurking on an off for years. Have been a Porsche person for many years, 996 4s, 997s, 997gt3. Have always a ferrari but timing was never right. I have been reading the site trying to decide between a 360 and 575. Monday going to see and drive a 2001 360 spider in Scottsdale, Az. Would appreciate any info anyone might have on this car.

2001 Used Ferrari 360 Modena Spider F1 at Porsche North Scottsdale Serving Phoenix, AZ, IID 9655412

Any suggestions on where to get PPI in Phx area besides Ferrari dealership? Car is being sold by Porsche North Scottsdale.

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post #2 of 20 Old 12-29-2012, 02:36 PM
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Welcome to Ferrari Life.

Can't go wrong with a good 360 or 575. Both great at what they were designed to do. Either way you can't go wrong. Testing both will send you in the right direction.

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For a 360, go 2002 or newer as the TCU shifting can be adjusted. Pre 2002's F1's are jerky under part throttle, my 2001 sure was, so I just shifted at redline all the time.

575 is a "GT" car, fast but depends on type of driving you will be doing.

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For a 360, go 2002 or newer as the TCU shifting can be adjusted. Pre 2002's F1's are jerky under part throttle, my 2001 sure was, so I just shifted at redline all the time.

575 is a "GT" car, fast but depends on type of driving you will be doing.
Building on this, the TCU can be upgraded or replaced in a fairly easy manner. So, IMHO, don't run away from pre-2002 cars because there are some great examples at great prices.

For me, it's 360 all the way!!!
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Looks like a great car. All 360 are great cars . Do not be afraid to purchase that 2001 if it pass your PPI. Sorry I do not know anyone in that area for a PPI . If you need any help with any question or parts . Please call or email me .
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Building on this, the TCU can be upgraded or replaced in a fairly easy manner. So, IMHO, don't run away from pre-2002 cars because there are some great examples at great prices.

For me, it's 360 all the way!!!
Maybe share your knowledge on upgraded TCU prices, not cheap at all.

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Just looked at the add, car is way overpriced, more than 10k based on my car that sold with 8k miles, both front and rear challenge grills, modular wheels, recent belt change.

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Welcome to FL.

Looks nice. I have no specific knowledge of this car but it looks nice- gated six speed- which I think is the way to go (personal preference), daytona seats, nice condition. No challenge grill but that is personal preference also- but some say it enhances the cooling- especially in Hotsdale, AZ.

There is an incredible Ferrari community there- a couple on the board can probably give you their experiences with PPIs there. I know of Supercar Specialists but have no personal experience there ( I have no affiliation). Their number is listed.

Have you read the buyers guide? You get a better PPI and better sale the more you know.


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Maybe share your knowledge on upgraded TCU prices, not cheap at all.
Really? I'm probably wrong then, because I thought the upgrade was $4-5k, which is a handsome sum I agree. Or there is the Formula Dynamics option for around $2500k.

I know a CS TCU upgrade is really steep, and pretty rare.

Apologies if I'm wrong on the numbers. I just assumed the cost to upgrade the TCU on an earlier model year wouldn't eat up the savings in the lower purchase price relative to a later model year.
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Raj- $2767.65 from Ricambi for the last 360 F1 ECU/TCU. CS TCUs are more, but there is even a secret way to cut that price way down. One is even sitting on my desk.

Ferrari Parts : 211023 : 211023 ECU F1 GEARBOX

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Raj- $2767.65 from Ricambi for the last 360 F1 ECU/TCU. CS TCUs are more, but there is even a secret way to cut that price way down. One is even sitting on my desk.

Ferrari Parts : 211023 : 211023 ECU F1 GEARBOX
Thanks Terry. I guess my position was sorta correct on the price of the TCU upgrade being within the realm of reason!
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I am in Scottsdale and if you like can go and take look for you. The Penske group here also has the authorized ferrari dealership. There are a couple of indy shops that do PPI for you. I have been using a shop in Fountain Hills -- Andy Falbo -- who is highly recommended.

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I am in Scottsdale and if you like can go and take look for you. The Penske group here also has the authorized ferrari dealership. There are a couple of indy shops that do PPI for you. I have been using a shop in Fountain Hills -- Andy Falbo -- who is highly recommended.

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Headed down tomorrow to see/drive it. I think Andy serviced the car, so may try to contact him. Like someone has said, seems overpriced, but not surprised from Penske Auto!
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Headed down tomorrow to see/drive it. I think Andy serviced the car, so may try to contact him. Like someone has said, seems overpriced, but not surprised from Penske Auto!
Last year 2004's with less than 10k miles were selling for high 80's to low 90's. No way a 2001 is worth 90k, even if it is a manual.

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Raj- $2767.65 from Ricambi for the last 360 F1 ECU/TCU. CS TCUs are more, but there is even a secret way to cut that price way down. One is even sitting on my desk.

Ferrari Parts : 211023 : 211023 ECU F1 GEARBOX
Certainly there are other ways, but with the amount of nice examples out there for sale, why create extra work and cost. Ricambi used to be asking close to 5k, but have not looked in a while.

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Mark- That is for a CS TCU, and some of the pros actually prefer the last 360 TCU for the 360.

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Last year 2004's with less than 10k miles were selling for high 80's to low 90's. No way a 2001 is worth 90k, even if it is a manual.
Went down on Monday and drove the car. Drove well, but unfortunately the front fender had ad crack on the passenger's side. They did not have any service records!
The search goes on!
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Went down on Monday and drove the car. Drove well, but unfortunately the front fender had ad crack on the passenger's side. They did not have any service records!
The search goes on!
Good decision!


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Went down on Monday and drove the car. Drove well, but unfortunately the front fender had ad crack on the passenger's side. They did not have any service records!
The search goes on!
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