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Buying a f430 scuderia, need advice

Buying a 2009 single owner yellow scud with 7,700 miles. Has alcantara, led steering wheel, factory stripes, carbon fiber etc well equipped. Buying from Ferrari dealership. Car was there on consignment. It has been certified. Cost of certification 5k and now has 1 yr warranty. Owner was asking 190k. I offered 170k and he accepted. So total is 170 +5= 175k. Is that a good price for this vehicle assuming all is legit? Is that too many miles?
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5k for 1 year - last time I checked it was 3k - regardless you stole a Scud!

Check the under body for wear and tear brakes clutch and its all good assuming she is accident free you did extremely well.

Ferrari's should be driven at least 2500 miles per year so it's in the sweet spot for miles.
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It felt like a good deal but i wanted to get some input from experienced people. thanks for that.

I will take a look at the car on the lift. So ferrari certification should be 3k? I dont know about the certification costs. The sales guy told it could run anywhere from 5 to 6k depending on what I dont know. what i do know they had already slapped some new tires on all 4s in order to comply. i told them to clean up exhaust bracket it had rusted screws. im prob being too tedious.

So it should be 3k? is the warranty included with a certified car similar to the power cube?

thanks in advance.
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Two key things to check, wear on the ceramic brake discs and clutch. If the brake discs need replacing it is major $$$$, clutch will be a few thousand.

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yes clutch and brakes. Im waiting to hear back after certification is done to get that info.

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keep advice coming its very helpful
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although two k is no small matter in this case I consider it a brush off, but we all have limits I guess. Sounds like a great price with what looks to be a farily clean documented and 'certified' car. Congrats.

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yes clutch and brakes. Im waiting to hear back after certification is done to get that info.

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Ask for all the records from the Certification - have them check the 6k windshield for rock nicks and if the readings showed track use.

By the way they already know the clutch and brake wear not sure why they aren't being more upfront.

You are NOT being too tedious it's still a lot of money.
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I'll follow up on clutch and break info tomorrow. Certification should be done by then. I hear what your saying. Sales guy did say there would be no surprises. The owner was an older gentleman in his 70s with multiple F cars. He has always been religious about the upkeep. I'll have service records soon.

He submitted car to Ferrari after placing order on a 458 scuderia. Must be nice.

I'll keep you posted as I get more info. Forum is extremely helpful thru this process.
Thanks again.

Someone asked what country: I'm in the US south east.
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Sounds like a great car and a great deal. Good luck with her.

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I'll follow up on clutch and break info tomorrow. Certification should be done by then. I hear what your saying. Sales guy did say there would be no surprises. The owner was an older gentleman in his 70s with multiple F cars. He has always been religious about the upkeep. I'll have service records soon.

He submitted car to Ferrari after placing order on a 458 scuderia. Must be nice.

I'll keep you posted as I get more info. Forum is extremely helpful thru this process.
Thanks again.

Someone asked what country: I'm in the US south east.
That's the kind of guy you want to buy a car from!

Hope it all goes well.
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wow!

Wow! they shaved over 10% off on that deal! i think its a steal for an '09! from the dealers i have been speaking to, 5 to 6K is what they want for the power warranty for 1 year. not sure if that is what you were referring to. the certification varies with respect to what needs to be done to the car to meet Ferrari's standards during the 101 t inspection was my understanding. anyhow, best of luck to you on what sounds like an awesome car and great deal!
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its great to hear such great responses thus far! puts me at ease big time.
As soon as i get inspection results ill post it.
thanks a million for guidance
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It is my favorite car out of all of mine. It is a long term keeper!

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That's quite a statement considering your collection! Im looking forward to what this scud can do.
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That's quite a statement considering your collection! Im looking forward to what this scud can do.
The acceleration alone is great. Properly alligned, the car is a beast. My car is quite loud, with the RSC exhaust, but that is what I like. Downshift blips seriously scare people. Try stock for a while, add a valve open / close switch, then decide if you want more. Best car purchase I have ever made.

Good choice with yellow, looks great on the Scuderia.

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so whats the situation on the exhaust switch. ill look it up. installation? cost? sounds like a good mod. I had a Cayenne GTS for a while that I disconnected Vacuum to keep valves open and it sounded so much better in lower end of rpms. Dont know how much that would affect performance on scud?? Again whats involved with switch install?
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so whats the situation on the exhaust switch. ill look it up. installation? cost? sounds like a good mod. I had a Cayenne GTS for a while that I disconnected Vacuum to keep valves open and it sounded so much better in lower end of rpms. Dont know how much that would affect performance on scud?? Again whats involved with switch install?
There are two ways to do the switch, might be a third.

This is what Ferrari of Seattle does, and I am sure other Dealers can do it. To the left of your steering wheel are some switches, for opening front hood and such. There is an open blank in that set of three, so you can have 4 total. They add a "Sport" switch that matches the other 3. Then they run wire to the exhaust valves, and that switch will open the valves all the time, or switch to the normal default setting, which opens the valves as needed.

Capristo uses a remote control, and a solenoid to open and close the valves.

Other's I have seen add a hidden switch, either beneath the steering wheel, or in the center console.

I would highly recommend some form of valve control, as having the valves open all the time, especially on a longer drive gets to me after a while. Also helps when you are coming home into your neighborhood, you can just close the valves and keep your neighbors happy.

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that sounds like a must have mod and super clean using the blank. Ill look into getting it done. thanks
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The dash switch is fine, but use the stock for a while first. I've found the factory valve settings to be fine.

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