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post #1 of 47 Old 11-19-2012, 12:20 AM Thread Starter
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365 gt 2+2

Hi all,

I am considering this '69 365 GT 2+2.

I have still to go and see it, but it is advertised as in good conditions, with just 9500 Km.

I enclose a few pictures of it.

Any comments ?

Thank you !

ciao
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Hard to tell from the pictures but 365 GT 2+2s are wonderful GTs. Have you read the buyers guide for them? Ferrari Buyer's Guides - Ferrari Life rear self leveling suspension is one area I do remember that needs careful checking.
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Thank you Boxer.

Yes I had a look at the Buyers Guide and I have also bought the book suggested by Onno ( Original Ferrari V12, 1965-73: The Guide to Front-engined Road Cars: Amazon.co.uk: Keith Bluemel: Books)

I should be able to see and probably drive the car in the first half of December. The request is for 90k Euro and it is sold by/through a Ferrari Dealer.

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Looks like Rosso Corsa in Milano.
What is the chassis number?

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Hi Marcel,

yes it is Rosso Corsa. Chassis number is 12043.

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Looks like Rosso Corsa in Milano.
What is the chassis number?

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Hi Marcel,

yes it is Rosso Corsa. Chassis number is 12043.

Thank you !

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The factory issued the Certificate of Origin for #12043 on the 26th January 1969.
Original exterior color: Azzurro Hyperion 2.443.648.
Original interior color: Nero VM 8500 Connolly.
Assembly sequence #340.
Pininfarina Body #324/A.
Delivered new to official dealer M. Gastone Crepaldi S.a.s. at Via San Marco in Milan.
1st February 1969 sold by Crepaldi to the first owner Giorgio Casagrande in Milan.
This car has had twelve owners, all in Italy.

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12043 at the Auto e Moto D'Epoca in Padova, 27th October 2006, on the stand of Auto Classic S.r.l.:
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Thank you for the very detailed information Marcel !

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Hi all, a little update.

I have booked a visit and a test drive for the next Tuesday. I will go there driving my '64 Alfa Romeo 2600 Sprint, which is a large 2+2 itself, so to be already 'tuned' to that kind of vintage cars (although the Alfa has less than half the HPs of the 365 GT).

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Hi all, a little update.

I have booked a visit and a test drive for the next Tuesday. I will go there driving my '64 Alfa Romeo 2600 Sprint, which is a large 2+2 itself, so to be already 'tuned' to that kind of vintage cars (although the Alfa has less than half the HPs of the 365 GT).

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excellent, look forward to hearing the report.
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Thanks Boxer and Doug! I will post a report and, if possible, somo pictures.

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Due to the bad weather conditions, the visit and test drive have been postponed to next week, hoping for an improved situation.

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Due to the bad weather conditions, the visit and test drive have been postponed to next week, hoping for an improved situation.

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Sorry to hear that. Wheather here is bad as well. But we are anxiously waiting your next weeks report, Mauro !

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Mauro- One of my favorite shapes and a great engine as well. Good luck on her.

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Thanks 212Export and Taz! It was a pity for today but I will post a full report next week.
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Thanks 212Export and Taz! It was a pity for today but I will post a full report next week.
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Ouch, sorry to hear.
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Hi all, I just realized I never updated this thread. Last December I was able to go to Rossocorsa and see the 365. The car was in good conditions, with a few minor issues concerning the paint, which looked a little 'spent'. The young son of the dealer, Edoardo Schoen, was so kind to bring myself and a friend accompanying me, for a quick ride on the Milano's tangenziale. He was driving, so I can't comment on the feeling on the steering wheel, but on the front passenger seat I got the impression the engine was running well, but the car seemed a little 'heavy', even on a stright line. Rear suspensions seemed to work fine too, considering all of the three passengers were in the range of the 90+ Kgs each!

Back in Rossocorsa office, we also got a free tour of the site, which is quite big and spectacular, being located in an ex-paper mill. Along with brand new Ferraris and Maseratis, there were vintage cars (like a couple of Maserati 3500 GTs waiting for restoration) and theSchoen family Ferrari collection, which includes several rare models, some of them once owned by Gianni Agnelli.

I inspected the 365 papers, including the Ferrari Classiche certification. Everything was fine, but I wasn't 100% convinced and wanted to go to see another couple of 365s, then on sale in Italy. I was confident that the Rossocorsa 365 was not going to be sold any soon, because it was already on sale by several months then. Unfortunately, as soon I realized, it was the best of the lot, it was too late: sold !

I started to look for another a few weeks ago and I noticed that: 1. the price of the 365 2+2 went up (from 80-90k Euro 6 months ago to 110-130k of today !), and 2. nearly all the 365 2+2 on sale in Italy in the last couple of months have been sold one after the other. I don'tt know if #1 is a consequence of #2 or why this model is suddenly so sought after here in Italy, but it is now impossible to find a 365 under 100k Euro.

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The prices are a normal seasonal uptic.

It will head down a little in fall or winter.

That being said those are getting more attention lately world wide. They are a great car and a real live vintage V12. Prices are not going to stay stable.


If you find another good one don't be hesitant.....act.
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Mauro- Sorry you missed this one. Like Brian said, jump on the next good one. These are among the last SOHC Ferraris built, and that 4.4 liter V12 is a great engine.

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