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2005-2006 Ferrari F430 Spider 42 84.00%
2011 V8 or V10 Audi R8 Spider 8 16.00%
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post #1 of 37 Old 09-10-2012, 09:56 AM Thread Starter
 
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F430 Spider or R8?

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I have been following your postings for sometime now and finally getting serious about buying my new toy. I've never owned a Ferrari or truly an exotic car for that matter. Currently, I drive an M6 and that's as exotic as it gets for me.

That being said, I am an avid car enthusiast and have always fantasized about owning a fun and exotic vehicle. Most recently I have been contemplating 2005-2006 F430 Spider with less than 15K miles. I've found some very reasonable deals that meet my price point as well as mileage thresholds. During this time, I've also been checking out the 2011 V10 or V8 R8 Spiders. Totally different cars but nevertheless those are my top 2 choices. Whichever I get, it would be for a fun vehicle and not my primary car. I'll have to get a commuter or something to get to work.

Things that steer me in one direction vs the other is maintenance and the total cost of ownership. The other component is the emotional side of things. So, I would love to ask you for your thoughts and feedback on this decision. I am not a "millionaire" but rather someone that can afford a nice ride but has to think about the implications of the decision. My income is decent but I do live in a high cost of living area (Bay Area in California) so the $4-$9K service bills are a huge concern.... Any and all input is welcome.

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R8 V10 Spyder. You can easily change the ECU program to the Lamborghini LP560 program, but even without it, great car. 6 speed manual would be recommended over the clunky E-gear based transmission. The new models will have DCT's. Plus you will still have some warranty left.

Go drive them both and see what you think.

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Forget servicing costs, by far your biggest cost will be depreciation.

To see how much that may well be, check out a 3 year old Audis prices now, while sitting down. The 430 will have taken most of its hit by now and hold money much better, and at 15k miles, its unlikely to yet be in the high maintainance costs part of its life. If servicing costs are an issue for you, then steer well clear of the Audi - not that I'm suggesting its a bad car, but overall cost of ownership will be far higher.

The Ferrari was also a much more expensive car to start with, you do get something for that, including the opportunity, which you may not get later in life, to say to yourself ' I owned a Ferrari'.

Much more sense of drama I think too with any Ferrari - Audi no doubt very competent and well screwed together, but a bit souless ? Not driven one, something you need to do once you have worked out your sums.

Trying not to be biased - I am a registered motoring journo and Ferrari owner. Hope that helps a bit
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Welcome to Ferrari Life!

I think both cars are going to make you extremely happy.

The Ferrari F1 is an experience no other car on the market offers.

IMO - Ferrari ownership is more of a lifestyle especially for us gear heads.

Best of luck either way.
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R8 V10 Spyder. You can easily change the ECU program to the Lamborghini LP560 program, but even without it, great car. 6 speed manual would be recommended over the clunky E-gear based transmission. The new models will have DCT's. Plus you will still have some warranty left.

Go drive them both and see what you think.
I don't usually discourage someone from buying an F-car, but...you may not be ready AFTER the purchase

+1, steer clear of the Ferrari's or you will probably wind up deferring maintenance which will cause you and the next owner much grief. Not sure of the Audi maintenance costs

What's wrong with keeping your foot in the BMW M series? they are great cars.
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Keep the M6 and get the Ferrari! I'm saying this, with a 2006 M5 in my garage in addition to other cars.

I drove an F430 Spider F1 back-to-back with the Audi R8 V-10 Coupe. Two TOTALLY different supercars.

The Ferrari is all about emotion, passion, and begging you to drive it enthusiastically. The Audi is an EXCELLENT supercar, but doesn't beg you to thrash it around or treat it "rough" (i.e. enthusiastically). For me, it comes down to the entire supercar experience - the look, the sound, the impracticality, the lust of a Ferrari. I am choosing a Ferrari, and I won't look back.

FWIW, I think the R8 V-10 is probably the BEST execution of the modern supercar. But, it totaly lacks emotion and passion, which come through as the primary motivators behind getting the Ferrari.

It all depends on what you want dude. If you want an ideal supercar, it's hard to beat the R8 V-10. If you want a girl who knows how to dance, and will make you fall in love with her (including all her faults), get the F-car and don't look back!!!

PS: Expect some biased answers to your poll. If you posted this on some Audi R8 forum, weigh the advice with equal bias!!!
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Keep the M6 and get the Ferrari! I'm saying this, with a 2006 M5 in my garage in addition to other cars.

I drove an F430 Spider F1 back-to-back with the Audi R8 V-10 Coupe. Two TOTALLY different supercars.

The Ferrari is all about emotion, passion, and begging you to drive it enthusiastically. The Audi is an EXCELLENT supercar, but doesn't beg you to thrash it around or treat it "rough" (i.e. enthusiastically). For me, it comes down to the entire supercar experience - the look, the sound, the impracticality, the lust of a Ferrari. I am choosing a Ferrari, and I won't look back.

FWIW, I think the R8 V-10 is probably the BEST execution of the modern supercar. But, it totaly lacks emotion and passion, which come through as the primary motivators behind getting the Ferrari.

It all depends on what you want dude. If you want an ideal supercar, it's hard to beat the R8 V-10. If you want a girl who knows how to dance, and will make you fall in love with her (including all her faults), get the F-car and don't look back!!!

PS: Expect some biased answers to your poll. If you posted this on some Audi R8 forum, weigh the advice with equal bias!!!
I could not agree more! I had an R8 V8, and then upgraded to a V10. EXCELLENT super car for sure.

From V10 R8, I had a 2012 Gallardo for barely 5 months(didn't care for it).

And now my favorite car to date, 09 Scud.
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Depends on what you are looking to do. The Audi is more of a daily driver. If you want a real pants wetter, the F430 spider is hard to beat.
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Currently and rather predictably 11-2 in favour of the F430 - have you posted the same poll on an Audi site ? I'd be interested in the current score
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if it means anything, the valet won't park the Audi up front.



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Both are amazing cars, here are some options:

Ferrari F430 - Ferrari F430 For Sale

Audi R8 - Audi R8 For Sale
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Hi,

Just wanted to provide some input to you having owned both an R8 (V8 6 speed) and Ferrari 360 Spider (6 speed) concurrently. They are both great cars. The difference in my opinion has to do with the way they drive. The R8 is more refined and does everything well. I owned mine for 4 years from new and it was very reliable with no maintenance issues. The Ferrari is beautiful and I would have to say more exhilarating to drive. When parked side by side ones eye always goes to the Ferrari. It is extremely reliable as well. Someone on this post mentioned a BMW M 6 as another option. I traded an M6 for the R8. At the time I really didn't like the SMG trans on the M 6 and couldn't wait to get rid of it. I understand they are much improved now. Anyway, I recently drove a 458 Italia and proceeded to sell the R8 and another car within the following week. I then went to the Ferrari dealership and ordered a 458 Italia. It is an amazing car in a completely different league than any of the cars mentioned. BTW I kept the 360 Spider. I hope this helps with your decision. Best, Thomas

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+1 the feeling is like no other
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Its funny to me that you have posted this here this week....After joning F-Life around a year ago, I myself am in much of the same dilema...after around an 18 month process of learning things on F-Life and other avenues I have sold my 2009 Audi S5, and am finally ready to upgrade. Over the weekend I looked at a MINT condition, very well cared for and maintained 2000 Ferrari 360 Coupe with 12mi.....I also looked at and drove a 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo with 26K+mi.....while I am Ferrari thru and thru and are definitely leaning this direction, I too am leary of the possible maintenance/upkeep involved.
More so, the multitude of people in my ear telling me how much this will be....yet if I have learned anything from F-Life the last year it seems that while this CAN be an issue. If one maintains their car and drives it responsibly, you can minimize the monetary damages...i will sit back and read the comments with great appreciation.
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From a factory racer of the R8 who also spends time servicing Ferrari he would take the Audi any day but that's from a protracted drive time experience and repair feeling. He honestly hasn't raced the 430 to state to me a valued difference but I trust his comments as something for memory banks. Me the 430 for sure. It is a Ferrari and a very good one. The R8 w CF highlight is delightful and a great car but almost Porsche like to me.

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I just traded my 11 R8 spyder (v8) for an 07 F430 coupe. They are totally two different rides. Audi can be a great daily driver and very refined and composed. The engine has a great exhaust note. The only thing I didn't like about the Audi was the r tonic tranny.
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I just traded my 11 R8 spyder (v8) for an 07 F430 coupe. They are totally two different rides. Audi can be a great daily driver and very refined and composed. The engine has a great exhaust note. The only thing I didn't like about the Audi was the r tonic tranny.
I have not driven an R8, just have experience with the Performante. I have heard most prefer the manual gated transmissions in the R8's. A new DCT is coming for 2013 though, so that will be interesting. Still not a fan of the generic looking seats in the Audi though.

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