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post #21 of 33 Old 06-07-2012, 12:18 PM
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Interesting, difficult, but ultimately wonderful debate to have to have 212!

One quick question - do you have garage space for a 3rd F car - I assume another addition will not be sleeping outdoors?

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post #22 of 33 Old 06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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212- Darn, what a shame. Looks like you are stuck with an F40 as your best choice. There are 1315 of them out there, so you should have a few choices. Right now a bullet-proof investment.

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Sounds like it is time to go buy another F40.
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@karakal, yes the F50 is a wonderful, great car, bought one last October. And yes Lambo is too agressive for my taste.
Wow congratulations on that, definitely a keeper.

I guess I would go with Boxers idea and get the best of each era.

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It is very hard to say what you should go for, 212. After all, you have already owned so many great cars, many that I would kill for but they still have left your stable.

I have not driven the Daytona yet, unfortunately. But knowledgeable people out there assure me that Boxers are very different to drive. I can certainly not imagine that the Daytona engine is like the 365BB engine, probably more like the 512BB. Boxer can comment more. What I do know is how much I love the 365BB. It is an awesome car. I think 140k would be very optimistic for a 365BB of the quality of your Daytona, though. If I had one, you couldn't buy it for that price. Thinking about it, though, considering that you drive your Daytona on torque, I'm not sure you would really connect with the 365BB. It is a screaming machine that wants to be spanked. It can potter around but then it is a bit dull. I might be wrong about you, though, so certainly try one out. You're of course welcome to drive mine, if you want to take a flight to Exeter.

I do know that you love the F40, so that is a great option. It all depends on how you are going to use your 3rd Ferrari. What are you looking for? Speed, looks, open top, vintage, modern, youngtimer?



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@ Onno: Oh yes, you are right. I believe the 365 BB is faster. No questions about. Regarding the usage I tend to believe that its too mear to the Daytona and it would be used only little as the Daytona (in comparison) is more outlined to be a "travelling longdistance car" (lugagge space and seating comfort)
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@Boxer: It seems that this WOULD be the way to go. Internally, the old debate starts again...".more than 2 F's" ??
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@Boxer: It seems that this WOULD be the way to go. Internally, the old debate starts again...".more than 2 F's" ??
Why not? I have found that 4-5 can be a enjoyable and manageable number.

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I I can certainly not imagine that the Daytona engine is like the 365BB engine, probably more like the 512BB. Boxer can comment more.

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The Daytona is much closer to the 512BB than the 365BB in-terms of the way you can drive it. Both are torque monsters that can both cruise and potter about. The 365 BB is more of a racer that needs to be pushed before it comes alive.
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@Boxer: It seems that this WOULD be the way to go. Internally, the old debate starts again...".more than 2 F's" ??
Speaking personally, the big hurdle was going from 1 to more than 1. Once you've gotten over that hurdle, it's simply a question of (a) would I enjoy each of them, and (b) am I comfortable with that % of my net worth tied up in automobiles? And only you can answer those questions.
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212 - I love my 512BB, but if I had F40 money then I would not have F40 money because I would have an F40. No question. Go get one.

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Why not? I have found that 4-5 can be a enjoyable and manageable number.



The Daytona is much closer to the 512BB than the 365BB in-terms of the way you can drive it. Both are torque monsters that can both cruise and potter about. The 365 BB is more of a racer that needs to be pushed before it comes alive.
I do only slightly not agree on that. This weekend I reread Nathan Beehls Boxer book again. He explaines in detail that the engine of the 365BB and that of the Daytona are compleately similar in bore, stroke and other setup's except one is a 180 degree flat V+2 and the other 120 degree. Aside from "D" drysump and 365 BB's wetsump and the fact that of course the BB is lighter, the engine characteristics are much more similar between the 2 than between the 512 and the Daytona. Also the Rev. max is higher on the Daytona than the 512. Just my 2 cents.

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Any news on #3 yet?
Oh my, funny you bring that up. I have been "bursting" my few brain cells all the time since returning back with "D" from another 3.5'km UK trip from you guys.

Which way to go is the "right" way ?

1. Stay as it is and be happy

or

2. Go the (wrong?) way of that of many before me...going to F cars
and limiting the use of the 2 others ?

In case option 2 is choosen should I choose:

2a: A reliable everyday and long tour usable car which likely will still somehow depreciate but at this absolute price level not important (328, 456M, 550, 575, 430 Scuderia)

or

2b: A nice "classic" addition with possibly long term price "safety" (if such a thing ever exists), which would be: 250 PF, 365BB/512BB, F40

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Oh my, funny you bring that up. I have been "bursting" my few brain cells all the time since returning back with "D" from another 3.5'km UK trip from you guys.

Which way to go is the "right" way ?

1. Stay as it is and be happy

or

2. Go the (wrong?) way of that of many before me...going to F cars
and limiting the use of the 2 others ?

In case option 2 is choosen should I choose:

2a: A reliable everyday and long tour usable car which likely will still somehow depreciate but at this absolute price level not important (328, 456M, 550, 575, 430 Scuderia)

or

2b: A nice "classic" addition with possibly long term price "safety" (if such a thing ever exists), which would be: 250 PF, 365BB/512BB, F40
Based o n personal experience a 430 Scuderia is the perfect FLED car.........and there will be more

However hard to argue against a F40..........
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