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post #1 of 13 Old 05-30-2012, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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246 gt help please

Alrght guys and gals,
I'm 17 years old and are looking to buy this 246 gt ferrari. So you can probably assume that I am a complete Ferrari "virgin", which I am. So here is my story, I was searching for a Ferrari on cars.com for fun, just to see my dream car, then I thought to myself, "What if there is a Ferrari under $20000, then my Dad an I could restore it". We have been looking for a fast, good looking car to rebuild. So I found this 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT (not GTS or maybe it is but this is what she said) for $13,500. I was shocked to see this, the photos for this car were beautiful. I emailed the person right away. So here are my concerns. 1. I know absolutely nothing about ferraris. 2. It's a scam because the person on cars.com profile had them being from Ohio and had a different name and when i contacted them they had a different name and were from Vermont. Also they gave me a long sob story about her husband having a gambling problem, and they sent me the same photo as was on the Internet. They also said that the Ferrari was almost in perfect condition and that they want to use google wallet as the third party an that I have 5 days to inspect the car and deem it worthy or unworthy.

This is what I said in return to this email that took them almost 2 weeks to send. I said that I would use my bank as a third party and that I would like to see the car before any money is sent. Also I said if I need to drive up there I would. Finally I said that I would like to see more photos and see the ferrari certificate of authenticity and matching vin numbers.

So guys, am I doing this right? If and when I get it (if not a scam or they never respond) what should I look for? Should I find a guy where I live that knows about ferraris? (Ohio)

Thank you guys so much for the help.
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post #2 of 13 Old 05-30-2012, 04:35 PM
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welcome as I said in the other thread, but this is NOT something to enter lightly.

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM

1. Download the owner's manuals, and workbooks and get to know the car.
2. if you both are serious about this barn find, I can tell you you'll put many times that into a Dino at that price which sell between $150,000-250,000 on an average mark. SOUNDS LIKE A SCAM
3. There are NO bargains in Ferrari. What you suggest is a quick way to throw away thousands.

not trying to steer you away from that dream, but first look to PHYSICALLY see the car.
DO NOT BRING any money to the event.
DO NOT RESPOND with any valid bank account, phone number or your real address
BRING plenty of friends, BIG, OLDER, friends to the event.
LOOK TO SEE THE PINK SLIP
ASK for the VIN number up front to see if stolen or valid.
I'll almost guarantee this Ferrari either belongs to someone valid and is known via the VIN or
SCAM which we see all the time and like I said above in RED SCAM

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welcome as I said in the other thread, but this is NOT something to enter lightly.

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM

1. Download the owner's manuals, and workbooks and get to know the car.
2. if you both are serious about this barn find, I can tell you you'll put many times that into a Dino at that price which sell between $150,000-250,000 on an average mark. SOUNDS LIKE A SCAM
3. There are NO bargains in Ferrari. What you suggest is a quick way to throw away thousands.

not trying to steer you away from that dream, but first look to PHYSICALLY see the car.
DO NOT BRING any money to the event.
DO NOT RESPOND with any valid bank account, phone number or your real address
BRING plenty of friends, BIG, OLDER, friends to the event.
LOOK TO SEE THE PINK SLIP
ASK for the VIN number up front to see if stolen or valid.
I'll almost guarantee this Ferrari either belongs to someone valid and is known via the VIN or
SCAM which we see all the time and like I said above in RED SCAM
Thanks so much, I hope this isn't a scam, but most likely is. Mainly a learning experience for me i guess. " It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by my husband (owner) and notarized and all the paper work." They sent that to me in the first email, i'll ask to see the pink slip. The care has around 73-75k miles. They took down the cars.com post. I remember them saying the radiator and something else was either original or not original (not much help haha). Do you know where I could get a manual for free? I'll definetly make sure I see the car before any money is considered.
Looks to good to be true.

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W- Go to ferraridatabase.com and you can download an owners manual and other factory manuals for free. There are no $13,500 Dinos now, except for fakes on a Fiero chassis. I paid $10,600 for a three year old one in 1975 and it was possible to buy running Dinos for $8K or so 30 years ago. Have not seen one for less than $100K for quite a while.

Really stupid on the scam seller's part. Would have gotten better results at $105K or so.



Looks just like a Dino 246 GTS, no?

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W- Go to ferraridatabase.com and you can download an owners manual and other factory manuals for free. There are no $13,500 Dinos now, except for fakes on a Fiero chassis. I paid $10,600 for a three year old one in 1975 and it was possible to buy running Dinos for $8K or so 30 years ago. Have not seen one for less than $100K for quite a while.

Really stupid on the scam seller's part. Would have gotten better results at $105K or so.



Looks just like a Dino 246 GTS, no?
Alright thanks much, I'll ask them for chassis number, general data plate info and engine info.
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Scam for sure.

This particular car has been discussed at length on a thread on F Chat. Here is the genuine ad for it on eBay and you'll note it failed to sell at $165k.

Ferrari : Other 246GT Ferrari : Other 246GT | eBay

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Scam for sure.

This particular car has been discussed at length on a thread on F Chat. Here is the genuine ad for it on eBay and you'll note it failed to sell at $165k.

Ferrari : Other 246GT Ferrari : Other 246GT | eBay
Thanks man, unfortunate that it is, such a beautiful car.
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Scam for sure.

This particular car has been discussed at length on a thread on F Chat. Here is the genuine ad for it on eBay and you'll note it failed to sell at $165k.

Ferrari : Other 246GT Ferrari : Other 246GT | eBay

Thanks for the tip: SN 03540 -- Like said above, the seemingly legit owner couldn't sell it for $165,000.

Beware....anyone can grab a pic off the Internet. Craig's List is the worst IMO.
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W- All they are looking for is a deposit and then you will never hear from them again.

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They sent me this when i asked for all 3 vin numbers and info.
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I would stop communicating with them asap to be honest with you.
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W- Unless you want to sic the cops on them, no sense giving them any more info. The chassis number engraving was stolen from the E-Bay ad.

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Alright I stopped thanks so much guys. Lesson learned
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