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post #1 of 32 Old 04-04-2012, 04:41 PM Thread Starter
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Next Ferrari advice please!

Having owned 4 modern V8 Ferraris I have a desire for a change, so I have set aside circa 100k for an additional Ferrari & don't mind if it's a Coupe, a 2+2 or a Targa, nor do I have any preference whether its another V8 or a V12, nor if she's old or modern....what I am wanting though is a great driver and to enjoy the experience....what Ferrari would you recommend I consider and why?

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Initial thoughts are a Dino, or a Boxer.

Neither are V8 or modern and both will deliver a magnificent Ferrari experience unlike, though very complimentary to, your more modern stallions.

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let the 550 fans chime in.

First:
- 12 cylinders : If you haven't experienced the more modern front engined 12 cylinders post 456 GT 2+2, then you are in for a treat
- the 550's especially in your side of the pond seem to be a steal, but, honestly they are a great bargain here in the states.
- the maintenance on them are not much different than your 8cylinders post 355 models. I'm talking regular maintenance and non-engine rebuilds here of course
- The experiences are many and can be glossed by many on the forum, but I would not want to be without a 12 again. Not because they are not the snappy pony, but because they are more the strong horse.

that's a start. I'll let Taz and the rest sell you better

Agree with Barry on the Dino, but finding an honest/good one not needing much for 100k lbs, is a task I don't see. [honestly, I truly wish Ferrari would make a modern Dino/Ferrari 6 cylinder.....that would rock...and I suspect they will with these days being what they are]

My personal opinion of the Boxer: Awsome, but needs a good mech and $$$ as many need sorting in regards to your price range....that's on this side of the pond of course...thinking also of the 512 BB

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Or if you wanted something more modern but still different from recent V8 experiences, then you couldn't go wrong with a 550 Maranello.


Edit: Rik you got there before me!

Ferrari's: 360 Modena, 550 Maranello
Ex's: Dino 308 GT4, 612 Scaglietti
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Or a 550 AND a 308... And still have plenty of change from your budget.

Ferrari's: 360 Modena, 550 Maranello
Ex's: Dino 308 GT4, 612 Scaglietti
The Rest: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, Porsche 911 2.7s, Porsche 911 3.2 Carerra, Ducati 916... and the Land Rovers
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I've always thought that a 550M (or 575 for that matter) would be a great drivers car. I like the idea of the 550/308 vs a 575 for instance.
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612 - Best of all worlds just be sure to find one with the HGTC or HGTS package.

Especially with that knee makes it easy on us old guys.

I enjoy the heck out of mine - until recently it satisfied every driving mood.
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Peter- One thing I have always regretted is not owning one of the SOHC V12s, like Onno's GTC. Those are out of that price range, but a really great 365 GT 2+2 fits in that price range. Always liked them because they look like a Superfast, but drive better.

The other things sneaking down into that price range are early 599 GTBs. Great, Enzo derived V12, indestructible twin plate clutch, and excellent F1 system. Continent eater in comfort, like my 575M, but way faster and much more modern interior and driver amenities.

Cannot go wrong with a Maranello, either, bulletproof, quick, and pretty.

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Peter- One thing I have always regretted is not owning one of the SOHC V12s, like Onno's GTC. Those are out of that price range, but a really great 365 GT 2+2 fits in that price range. Always liked them because they look like a Superfast, but drive better.

The other things sneaking down into that price range are early 599 GTBs. Great, Enzo derived V12, indestructible twin plate clutch, and excellent F1 system. Continent eater in comfort, like my 575M, but way faster and much more modern interior and driver amenities.

Cannot go wrong with a Maranello, either, bulletproof, quick, and pretty.
Thats interesting Terry, why would you rate the 365 GT 2+2 the better driver than the 500 Superfast ? Because of added technique modernity ?

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612 - Best of all worlds just be sure to find one with the HGTC or HGTS package.

Especially with that knee makes it easy on us old guys.

I enjoy the heck out of mine - until recently it satisfied every driving mood.
+1, with your knee, either the 612 or 599 would be a very good choice.

Both are within the targeted price range.

If you want something a bit more exotic and can stretch the budget, I would hunt down the F40 that was fitted with the Valeo gearbox/clutch system.
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212- The Superfast has always been one of my favorites, but everything I have read about them said they were very truck-like to drive and not particularly fun on winding roads. 50s technology drivetrain with a lot of power and not much in the way of brakes. More fun to look at and admire than to drive.

The Queen Mother, on the other hand, gets good reviews and the owners really enjoy driving them. Power steering probably helps, as does better brakes, and the much more sophisticated rear, self-leveling suspension. The last of the SOHC engines seems to work really well, too, even if it did not have quite the hp of the Superfast. Good hp and torque with beautiful mechanical and exhaust music. Those chain driven cams sound really nice.

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good call barry. just what i was gonna write. i'm out!

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Initial thoughts are a Dino, or a Boxer.

Neither are V8 or modern and both will deliver a magnificent Ferrari experience unlike, though very complimentary to, your more modern stallions.


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212- The Superfast has always been one of my favorites, but everything I have read about them said they were very truck-like to drive and not particularly fun on winding roads. 50s technology drivetrain with a lot of power and not much in the way of brakes. More fun to look at and admire than to drive.

The Queen Mother, on the other hand, gets good reviews and the owners really enjoy driving them. Power steering probably helps, as does better brakes, and the much more sophisticated rear, self-leveling suspension. The last of the SOHC engines seems to work really well, too, even if it did not have quite the hp of the Superfast. Good hp and torque with beautiful mechanical and exhaust music. Those chain driven cams sound really nice.


All true.

The QM is a great driving car with a totally viceless motor. It was quite probably the very best of all the Enzo era V12 motors.


Then there is that difference in price.
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Peter,
I would say a 550, great fun and great car! You must have driven one, I assume. If not, you will next month when we meet...

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Fantastic offer Jeroen, thank you as I have never driven a 550 so Im now looking forward to that drive immensely!

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Fantastic offer Jeroen, thank you as I have never driven a 550 so Im now looking forward to that drive immensely!
Peter, you can have a go in my 308 GT4 as well, and that should seal the deal for a 550 / 308 combo for your next Ferrari acquisition!

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Peter- Careful. Once you drive a Maranello they are kind of hard to resist. Modern Daytonas with A/C that works and excellent brakes. Once off the line, as quick as an F430. Excellent handling for the twisties and able to eat continents in comfort and safety at any speed chosen. Everybody who sees mine says she is really pretty, and I agree.

Brian- I really like the QM. Has really grown on me over the years. Late models were even available with dual air, which still did not work too well, but every little bit helps.

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I would really like to test drive a gated 550.

Maybe you guys will come pick me up
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Peter, you can have a go in my 308 GT4 as well, and that should seal the deal for a 550 / 308 combo for your next Ferrari acquisition!
I'm going to take my push bike along to swap over with you guys ha ha

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I've been offered a really keenly priced 575M, however, I think I want to go back in time a tad more....a 599GTB also appeals, but its more a replacement for my Maserati MC Stradale when the times right, so a 550/308-328 combo might just work, but I need to also drive a 512BB and a 330GT to rule them out first...Im also really liking the looks of a 365GT 2+2....

Keep the suggestions coming guys, these along with your advice & reasoning is very welcome.

Thanks....

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