Ferrari newbie, need help with 360 Modena - Ferrari Life
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Ferrari Life Posts: 2
Ferrari newbie, need help with 360 Modena

I am interested in buying my first Ferrari. The only one i would consider is a 2002 - 04 360 Modena. I think it might be the nicest car i've ever seen. (i like it better than the next generation F-430)

I spoke to my local dealer, who happens to be a friend of a very close friend of mine so i think his advice is genuine, but he is still a "salesman". He basically scared me away from buying a 360 because of it's age, and that many things can go wrong with it like blowing an F-1 pump, (i think that's what he meant) and that if that were to happen, it would be a $20k bill. He said his dealership doesnt even touch a used Ferarri pre-2006. He also persuaded me to stay away from a particular color of a specific car i have my eye on because if it ever needed to be painted or touched up, it would be impossible to match. (The color i like is the light blue)

Since this is my first endeavor, my thought would be to try and find one with less than 10,000 miles on it, with all recent service done including a new clutch, and a PPI. I would hope that in the event i did not like it, or wanted to sell it, i would only lose about 10k after a year.

Any advice? Am on the right track a completely going in the wrong direction?
RHS071 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 02:31 PM
Owner
 
Saint Bastage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Essex Connecticut
Ferrari Life Posts: 1,839
Advise...Your friend is not much of a friend.

Ferrari's are expensive to buy and to maintain but not that expensive. If you have your heart set of a certain model, that's the model you go for. If you have your heart set on a certain color...get that color. Any discussion of paint match is silly.

Lane

Previous owner of 348ts SS #64, Now Ferrariless

Last edited by Saint Bastage; 03-19-2012 at 04:55 AM.
Saint Bastage is offline  
post #3 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 02:58 PM
Owner
 
champagne612's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: St Louis
Ferrari Life Posts: 10,022
Welcome to Flife

Post the cars you are looking at with as much information as possible and where you are located.

A pre purchase inspection will be in order by a professional.

The guy who you talked to at the dealer doesn't sound like someone you would claim to know on any level.

There is plenty of help here - first suggestion is to take a look at the buyers guide.

FF 16M Speciale
Lamborghini SV Roadster
Carrera GT GT3RS Viper ACR
Bentayga 69z28 Healey
champagne612 is offline  
 
post #4 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 03:13 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,856
Welcome to Ferrari Life. That sounds like really silly advice to me and made by someone who did not have a 360 to sell. Problems with the F1 system on the 360 are well understood and replacing a $100 F1 pump relay at regular intervals or upgrading it prevents the problem he was mentioning. A new F1 pump costs $800 from our sponsor Ricambi plus labor. For $20K you could replace the entire F1 system, which is not going to be required.

SB is correct on the paint. Sounds like you prefer Grigio Alloy Mica, PPG Code 300195. This is a standard PPG paint that can be matched by any competent body shop in the USA (or world) and is no harder to match perfectly than any other metallic paint.

I would avoid that particular person, but if they are where you will have the car serviced, go talk to the service manager and he should be a lot more knowledgeable. If this is not a Ferrari dealership or good Ferrari independent, just ignore them.

360s are fine cars and there was a significant upgrade to the F1 ECU/TCU made during CY 2002. Earlier cars can be upgraded, but getting a later models negates needing to do so.

Let us know if you have any more questions and we can help.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #5 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: ONTARIO
Ferrari Life Posts: 768
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Bastage View Post
Advise...Your friend is not much of a friend.

Ferrari's are expensive to buy and to maintain. If you have your heart set of a certain model, that's the model you go for. If you have your heart set on a certain color...get that color. Any discussion of paint match is silly.
Listen to your Ferrari life members.
If you need any help just ask.
Thanks
Alex.
ALEX A is offline  
post #6 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 05:03 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
wetpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chevy Chase, Md
Ferrari Life Posts: 9,567
first problem. I don't consider the ferrari dealer's advice genuine.

can't match the paint? how about with the same paint? duh.

by the way, welcome to f-life. and good luck with the 360. great car to start with and a good value lately too.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RHS071 View Post

I spoke to my local dealer, who happens to be a friend of a very close friend of mine so i think his advice is genuine


100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3
wetpet is offline  
post #7 of 35 Old 03-18-2012, 11:37 PM
 
134282's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: SoCal
Ferrari Life Posts: 386
So much good advice in this thread. Can you post the serial number of the Ferrari(s) you're considering? I'll second the notion that your "friend" isn't much of a friend - or he too has been snowed by this dealer friend of his. An F1 pump repair sucks, and is expensive, but it's not $20K. And it's not difficult to color-match paint - even Ferrari paint. It sounds like you're getting the bait and switch tactic: "Yeah, we have a 360, come in and check it out." But then when you get there: "Yeah, you don't want this jalopy - it's a maintenance nightmare, stuff costs 30% of the asking price, color-matching is impossible, it's practically an archaic model. Here, you should consider this 458 - so what if it's out of your budget."

I need an Aventador!
134282 is offline  
post #8 of 35 Old 03-19-2012, 01:01 AM
Owner
 
Fiorano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Europe
Ferrari Life Posts: 4,348
Welcome to F Life RHS

All good advice. I've owned a 360 Modena for 5 years now and only have good experiences to report to date. If its the car you want then get one, and in the colour you want it in.

Ferrari's: 360 Modena, 550 Maranello
Ex's: Dino 308 GT4, 612 Scaglietti
The Rest: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, Porsche 911 2.7s, Porsche 911 3.2 Carerra, Ducati 916... and the Land Rovers
Fiorano is offline  
post #9 of 35 Old 03-22-2012, 12:20 PM
Owner
 
Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin Texas
Ferrari Life Posts: 1,833
All the top panels on the 360 Spider were painted in Germany while the rest of the car was painted in Maranello. If paint matching was a problem with any of the colors Ferrari would not have used it for that reason.

F1 actuators do break. It is not common but we do replace them and no repair is as yet available. The part is about $17,000. The power unit is mechanical and will break like all things do eventually. It is near $7000.

The 360 is a great car but make no mistake, it is an exotic, it is not a Chevrolet.

Read this months issue of Forza magazine. It has a 360 buyers guide. I was one of the authors.
Brian is offline  
post #10 of 35 Old 03-22-2012, 12:25 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,856
Another one post wonder. Spring break?

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #11 of 35 Old 03-22-2012, 12:30 PM
Owner
 
Fiorano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Europe
Ferrari Life Posts: 4,348
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazandjan View Post
Another one post wonder. Spring break?
Well he did log in yesterday. Maybe he's just having a good long think about it?

Ferrari's: 360 Modena, 550 Maranello
Ex's: Dino 308 GT4, 612 Scaglietti
The Rest: Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, Porsche 911 2.7s, Porsche 911 3.2 Carerra, Ducati 916... and the Land Rovers
Fiorano is offline  
post #12 of 35 Old 03-22-2012, 01:52 PM
Owner
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Pacific North West
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,526
I have a silver 360 spider I am interested in selling, less than 9k miles, let me know if you are interested, or send me a PM.
markjayw is offline  
post #13 of 35 Old 03-23-2012, 11:17 AM
Owner
 
Granucci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 6,193
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian View Post
All the top panels on the 360 Spider were painted in Germany while the rest of the car was painted in Maranello. If paint matching was a problem with any of the colors Ferrari would not have used it for that reason.

F1 actuators do break. It is not common but we do replace them and no repair is as yet available. The part is about $17,000. The power unit is mechanical and will break like all things do eventually. It is near $7000.

The 360 is a great car but make no mistake, it is an exotic, it is not a Chevrolet.

Read this months issue of Forza magazine. It has a 360 buyers guide. I was one of the authors.

This was a good issue and always enjoy your shop talk write-ups: Well written BTW.

Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic
Rik -- LAH !


Current:
Past:
1990 Mondial T Cabriolet SN 86247 : Red/Tan
1995 456 GT 2+2 SN 99987 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan
Granucci is offline  
post #14 of 35 Old 03-23-2012, 11:32 AM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,856
Brian- I read the 360 buyers' guide. Did you find a 50 amp F1 pump relay that will fit into the 30 amp relay connector? The OEM 50 amps have a different pin arrangement from the early 30 amp relays.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #15 of 35 Old 03-23-2012, 04:52 PM
Owner
 
Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin Texas
Ferrari Life Posts: 1,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazandjan View Post
Brian- I read the 360 buyers' guide. Did you find a 50 amp F1 pump relay that will fit into the 30 amp relay connector? The OEM 50 amps have a different pin arrangement from the early 30 amp relays.


I did but I didn't like the quality so really didn't believe the rating. I think you really need the big blades for that much current with a big duty cycle. I just wire in bigger female spades. I would like to find a good source for relay mounting blocks designed to accept them but have not had the time to look.
Brian is offline  
post #16 of 35 Old 03-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Owner
Elite Member
 
tazandjan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Ferrari Life Posts: 11,856
Brian- Thanks. I have an upgraded 30 amp relay -X266 in my car (original in my Nov 03 car was a -X203) and it seems to work pretty well so far, but 50 amps like you rig is probably better.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Present: 575M 135171
Past: Dino 246 GT 02984, 365 GTB/4 14009, 308 GTS 25125

Every day I look around, and if nobody is shooting at me, it is a pretty good day.
tazandjan is online now  
post #17 of 35 Old 04-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Owner
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Socal
Ferrari Life Posts: 117
I need to read your article Brian....but don't get Forza...searching the web now...

Present: 1999 360 Modena 116113
Past: 1986 GTS 64263
Shane is offline  
post #18 of 35 Old 04-03-2012, 04:03 PM
Owner
 
Shane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Socal
Ferrari Life Posts: 117
Found it.....nice work!

Present: 1999 360 Modena 116113
Past: 1986 GTS 64263
Shane is offline  
post #19 of 35 Old 04-04-2012, 04:17 AM
Owner
 
360 Modena's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Ferrari Life Posts: 4,516
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazandjan View Post
Another one post wonder. Spring break?
I was thinking the same thing, but I hope I'm wrong and we're not wasting electrons
360 Modena is offline  
post #20 of 35 Old 04-04-2012, 08:15 AM
Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: AZ and WY
Ferrari Life Posts: 72
Great read, here is a link to the story in Forza:

Forza :: 360 Buyer's Guide : 360 Buyer's Guide: Viva la Revolution!
arizonaitalian is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome
Copyright 2012 ONE Media, Inc.
FerrariLife is independently run with no affiliation with Ferrari SpA
Ferrari for Sale | Maserati for Sale