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My last 4 Ferraris

After joining the forum some time ago I thought it is time to attach photographs of my last 4 Ferraris (owned in '02 to '07). Currently (how unbelievable!) I do not own 1 single Ferari, but that will change with the arrival of the Scuderia and hopefully a 2nd one. I have never owned more than 2 Ferraris at a time and enjoyed all of them in their own respect. Hope you like the photographs and excuse myself for the rather bad quality of them (I do not even own a digital camera )
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Very nice collection. You have owned cars that most people only dream about. Thanks for sharing the photos and hope to see you back in the driver's seat soon!!

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Beautiful cars!!!! My favorite would have to be the 360 Challenge Stradale!

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Fantastic man. Nothing else to say.

Hope you have the Scuderia when we drive together...

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What a great varied ownership experience.
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Thank you very much for the very nice comments. It helps to "starve" thru the time without the prancing horse. Interestingly not having a Ferrari for almost an year helped we very much to realize how much I missed it.
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I love the 275, how was the driving experience of that car?
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I love the 275, how was the driving experience of that car?
Of all the oldtimer Ferraris I've owned, the 275 GTB "shortnose" was the quickest, lightest.... so to say the most "raciest" one to experience. Stearing feels very light and exact, the engine reved like a high octave singbird and the car never, ever let me down. A fantastic experience, especially after driving rather old material like the 250 PF and the 250 GTE.
It was a very interesting fact to realize how much technique difference is applied to a car from lets say 1958 to 1965 or 1966. It's a huge difference which before owning and driving it, I was not aware of at all. Of course, compared to the Stradale's brake standards the 275 GTB brakes are almost "not in existence". Respecting this only down point the 275 GTB is a pleasure to drive and to travel (I drove it over 10'K). Unfortunately prices for those beauty's have risen to the strathosphere and insurance levels and acceptance to protect your beauty in real value terms gets difficult AND expensive.

Another thought to the 275 bred: Interestingly, collectors are bidding up the very old or very famous Ferraris (250 GTO, 250LM, 375 MM, 340 MM) to 5, 10, 15 or more Millions of Dollars. If my personal pocket would be that deep, I would look out to buy a 275 GTB/C (Competizione) from the 2nd series. Experiencing the nimbleness of the 275 GTB in general, I must assume that the Competizione with a alloy body skin which is 1/4 of the thickness of a general, very light alloy skin must be breathtaking. Besides the fantastic engine, some of them have great histories with class wins in Le Mans and the prices are "only" 2.5 to 4 Mio. [/LEFT][/RIGHT]

Being so positive about I realize I should change my synonym from "212Export" to "275 GTB/C"

Unfortunately, I have never driven a 365 GTB/4 Competizione so my relative comparison between cars is really limited.
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pictures are good enough because of the great cars.

Got some question do you have to pay VAT in Switzerland?

mv agusta+ferrari =perfect world
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pictures are good enough because of the great cars.

Got some question do you have to pay VAT in Switzerland?
Yes, VAT is 7.6% if you import it from abroad, but if you buy a car within Switzerland from a private person as a private person no VAT is payable. If you buy it from a car dealer, the car dealer has to pay the VAT on his profits.

If you import a car from abroad to Switzerland, you pay an additional 4% import tax if the car runs on Swiss plates. So overall to import a car from the EU or US to Switzerland, we roughly calculate 12% addition to the initial sticker price.
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I wanted to import my second bmw m5 e60 to the netherlands from a private seller from Switzerland. But if I understand it right I have to pay to compleet VAT which in the netherlands is 19%.

Have you got any idea how much I have to pay extra for a bmw m5 e60 from 7/2005 in the netherland when I have to import it> WE HAVE TO PAY BPM + 19% VAT.

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You have owned some very beautiful cars, I'm sure the wait for your Scuderia will be worth it. I am also without a Ferrari at the moment, having sold my 328 last week, and am eagerly awaiting a time when funds allow me to buy another prancing horse.

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I wanted to import my second bmw m5 e60 to the netherlands from a private seller from Wien. But if I understand it right I have to pay to compleet VAT which in the netherlands is 19%.

Have you got any idea how much I have to pay extra for a bmw m5 e60 from 7/2005 in the netherland when I have to import it> WE HAVE TO PAY BPM + 19% VAT.
I have no idea. Sorry but EU law is not my centerpoint of competence
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You have owned some very beautiful cars, I'm sure the wait for your Scuderia will be worth it. I am also without a Ferrari at the moment, having sold my 328 last week, and am eagerly awaiting a time when funds allow me to buy another prancing horse.
Oh Archie, did not know that you sold your 328 ! Why this and what would be your future dream car ?
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Allright i am just looking don't know it myself either

Nut I have to pay the full amount of VAT because a private seller doesn't have to pay VAT. Then I think i will look a bit closer like germany or Austria

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Talking about tax..... I'm Danish

and we have the highest tax pressure in the world for cars, - both new and used cars.

NO ONE beats our 180% on top of the cars commercial value.

Meaning:

If a car costs 100.000 USD we Danes have to pay 280.000 USD to get them on Danish plates and hence allowed to hit the Danish streets and ways.

I wish I was joking, but I am not......

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and we have the highest tax pressure in the world for cars, - both new and used cars.

NO ONE beats our 180% on top of the cars commercial value.

Meaning:

If a car costs 100.000 USD we Danes have to pay 280.000 USD to get them on Danish plates and hence allowed to hit the Danish streets and ways.

I wish I was joking, but I am not......
I'm very sorry for that. I have really no idea what's the reason of the danish governement to act so on his taxpayers and people. This seems like an modern form of robbery.
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Thats absolutely terrible!

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Yep, - it not only robbery, - it is highway rubbery

It has been like this in Denmark since the 60'es. Denmark is one of the richest countries in the world, but we simultaniously also have a very old car park.
It does not really match together at all.

Apart from the old Ferrari, I also have a Peugeot 307 CC from 2004... new price was back then just about 54.000 EUR...

again: , right?

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and we have the highest tax pressure in the world for cars, - both new and used cars.

NO ONE beats our 180% on top of the cars commercial value.

Meaning:

If a car costs 100.000 USD we Danes have to pay 280.000 USD to get them on Danish plates and hence allowed to hit the Danish streets and ways.

I wish I was joking, but I am not......

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