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t1fosI 03-12-2008 04:00 AM

In Summary
 
In Summary...

328 - Childhood fantasy - aging well, reliable and still sexy. c30k.

355 - 20's crush: broke my heart. Fast living showing the occasional cracks, can be temperamental. 35k-45k

550 - Attractive high maintenance socialite. Likes a drink and a good cruise. 40k-55k.

360 - 00's Slick New Age High Flyer - due for a recessionary fall in the not to distant future (55k and falling)

430 - New Filly on the block - outta my league!


Dilemma: How to spend approx GBP45k.

How would you spend it and why? OR what else would you choose?
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JazzyO 03-12-2008 11:01 AM

I was facing this dilemma last year and the answer was easy.

I was looking for a continental cruiser/bruiser so the 550 was the only answer. The fact that it is ferociously quick and dropdead gorgeous in my eyes did not really deter me :). So 550 it was.

This year, however, I'm facing a dilemma again. With a budget of up to maximum of 100k GBP, I've got my eyes on:

1. Boxer. 512BB or 365BB. My dream car. Raw, sleek, sexy, chique, off-beat, the Countach for people with taste. But, you know, it is a lot of money for me: 80 - 100k GBP. I'm thinking maybe I should be more sensible. So instead, perhaps:
2. 328 GTS. Lurvely car. Gorgeous, technique more primitive than my 550 (that's a good thing - I'm looking for contrast), lovely exhaust note with a Tubi, roof comes off, easy to find a really good one.
or
3. 308 Vetroresina. Older technique again, carburettor with lovely sound, should be a little quicker than a 328 due to lower weight, even better styling than the 328 if you have an early one. But roof doesn't come off and a good one is very hard to find.

I really don't know what to choose yet!

So, in my current situation, looking at your list, I have to vote 328!

[EDIT]Why no F355 and F360? For me, they shared production dates with my 550. I'd like to get something more classical, to get a more different automotive experience when I step in them. Nothing against them, I swoon when I see an F355.


Onno



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archiegibbs 03-12-2008 01:00 PM

It had to be the 328 for me. As a first time Ferrari buyer 2 years ago, I looked at the pro's and con's of the different models in my price range which was sub 40K GBP.
At that point 355's and 550's were still way over 50K, so not a consideration.

My options were 308/328/348/Mondial/Testarossa.

The 328 was a no brainer, widely regarded as one of the most reliable, best built, easiest/cheapest to maintain, beautiful in a 70's/80's kind of way and useable Ferrari's. There is no shortage of good quality well maintained examples out there with over 6000 GTS, and 1500 GTB's around. They have also reached the bottom of the depreciation curve, where they will probably sit for another 10 years before they gradually start to appreciate.

So far, I have been delighted with my 2 years experience with the 328, she's been reliable and cheap to maintain.

There are some minor downsides - no power steering, dated dashboard, cramped cabin, very few modern luxuries. But all in all, I am very happy and wouldn't swap her for anything else.

If funds allowed, I would consider a second F-car purchase, possibly a 360, but probably a 550 as they are seriously good value for money at the moment.

Chrishawk4 03-12-2008 05:24 PM

My choice would have to be between two of these cars. Either the 355, or the 360.

When I was 7 the F355 came out, and it was my favorite car and pretty much still is. I love the design, sound, and hopefully some day I find out how it handles;). By the time I graduate in 7 years the price of that car should be within grasp of a couple years in practice.

The 360, I love the styling, the sound, and the performance. It is in between my two favorite Ferraris the F355 and the F430. The 360 is definitely one of my favorite Ferraris though.

So after much thought I would have to go with the F355:D :D

Chris

stile - alpine 03-12-2008 06:40 PM

Onno, I agree with you for the exact same reasons. I understand everything you said and if I was in your shoes I think I'd make the same decision.

550 to me

Boxer 03-12-2008 11:26 PM

My answer probably could be any of the above. I finally clicked onteh 550 as I think it is the bargain buy of the Ferrari world right now and you will get a much nicer 550 for GBP 45k than any 360 you would be able to find at that price.

However if I did re-enter the 550 owners club, a 550 Barchetta would be an interesting option......

Night Life 03-12-2008 11:41 PM

F355
 
For me this still represents the true classic Ferrari style it has all the looks of the 328 and all the fast and the Furious performances that still to this day are awesome.

Plus it is a updated version of the 348....:eek: ..:D

JazzyO 03-13-2008 06:59 AM

I think it is in equal amounts annoying and fantastic that all these cars are great! It's like a win-win situation. How boring! :)


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t1fosI 03-13-2008 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer (Post 63833)
My answer probably could be any of the above.



That is exactly the problem!

I start off thinking 328 - nice, then I think power 270bhp OK adequate, but is it enough and as Archie says no power steering (no big deal but would be nice especially in city) so that leads me to 355 - nice, power steering, more power, but a few problems; manifolds/cats/engine out, can manage that but corrosion - don't want that straight away (car will be sometimes left outside; will it take in water?) so 550 then, see them parked outside all the time in Chelsea, no problem. Plenty of power, comfortable GT, discreet - like that, V12 - not sure am ready to graduate to a V12 just yet, I know it is supposed to be reliable, but knowing my luck!?! and fuel in the UK is going up AGAIN 18-20 mpg OK, but 10-12 - should I just leave my bank account details with the petrol station attendant? OK maybe back to a V8 - hmm 360 - prices falling, got to be very careful for a good one, but too many; not rare enough and I want to be able to take the roof off in the summer so what about a 328 GTS...back to the beginning...


To cap it all one of the guys who works with me reckons I should get a Testarossa!!

Boxer 03-13-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t1fosI (Post 63853)
That is exactly the problem!

and fuel in the UK is going up AGAIN 18-20 mpg OK, but 10-12 - should I just leave my bank account details with the petrol station attendant?

To cap it all one of the guys who works with me reckons I should get a Testarossa!!

Per above, if you do buy the TR, you will definitely need to leave your details with the petrol station attendant.

archiegibbs 03-13-2008 01:39 PM

T1f, just get a 328, you won't regret it. If you find you can't get around the city without power steering, move up to a 360 or 550 in a couple of years. The benefits of this are that you won't lose any money on the 328 as prices are very stable, but the 550 and 360 will both have suffered a couple of extra years depreciation, so you might find their prices much closer to the trade in value of your 328.

Nick Cartwright has currently got 3 or 4 nice 328's in. Jump in your SL, drive up to Matlock, you know it makes sense;)

t1fosI 03-15-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer (Post 63877)
Per above, if you do buy the TR, you will definitely need to leave your details with the petrol station attendant.

:D
Point noted!

t1fosI 03-15-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archiegibbs (Post 63883)
T1f, just get a 328, you won't regret it.

you know it makes sense;)


Archie, I know it makes sense, but...aagghhh!!!!


OK lets see...I think the 360 is out as it would have to be an earlier car and as you guys say the prices haven't bottomed yet and finding a good one for my budget will be tough (I could go higher, but I have to be disciplined!) so...328, 355, 550?


PS have you heard this nonsense about retrospective road tax increases the government has planned for next year! Maybe I should be looking for a LHD!

JazzyO 03-15-2008 03:45 PM

In the end, only you can make the decision!

For me it was 550, last year. It's pretty much at the bottom of the curve, you won't lose that much on it. And anyway, you're not thinking about selling it surely? As for gas - if you are honestly considering the merits of 18 mpg then I don't think you're ready for a Ferrari. Seriously - it never even enters my mind: it is the price you pay for the work of art you own and enjoy. If you buy a racing horse, do you care about the price of the food you have feed it?

And by the way, a 328 is not more economic than my 550. Maybe a little, but not much. I've gotten 16.3 mpg so far over 6,000 miles and I don't feather the throttle. But let's say I could have gotten 19 mpg in a 328 for argument's sake (my brother certainly never got anything better than that in his 328). That would mean that in my country, I would have saved 200 euro for 9,000 kms! Considering that I spend 20 times as much on insurance and storage combined per year, I think you have to agree it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, especially because most people don't do that kind of mileage.

It sounds to me like you want to park the car in the street - is that correct? Ferrari's are not made for that - your car will start to show wear and tear very soon. I strongly advise against it. I haven't got a garage of my own either so my car is normally stored at a Ferrari specialist and when I'm in the country I store it in my parents' garage.

If you're not parking it on the street and you want to take the top off, then the F355 Spider is a great choice. 328 GTS is also lovely.


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t1fosI 03-15-2008 05:02 PM

You are absolutely right Onno, that makes a lot of sense. To be honest gas is not a consideration at all, the amount of miles I do in pleasure driving is fairly small as it is (8000 in two years) and it doesn't bother me. I think I am just looking for an excuse!

As for selling, I have no intention of selling, however the business part of me kicks in at this point (I can't help it!) I always consider that if I buy well, I will sell well, should the time ever arise.

Insurance is no consideration, my business policy takes care of that. I don't intend to park it on the street, but there will be times when it is left on the driveway and other than that it will be garaged. But the garage is not close to my house so that is why it will occasionally be sleeping outside on the drive.

I always liked the F355 spider (that was the model I wanted when the 355 first came out, in TDF blu with Crema interior) but the way the English weather is you would be driving with the roof up most of the time, also most of the time I tend to drive inside the city and occassionally one does feel a little 'exposed' in a convertible so I decided on a F355 GTS if I go that route. I know this may sound like sacrilege, but I would also drive the car all year round including in winter :eek: hence my concern about the corrosion factor on the 355.

The 328 GTS is beautiful, in everyway I think. For me the 308/328 shape is timeless.

The 550 is, as you say a proper GT cruiser/bruiser, and I do like the design also, I have heard so many good things about the 550, not only on the forum but also from people who have worked on them, that I guess I am wondering if it really is that perfect a car?

Is there a downside to the 550?

Saint Bastage 03-15-2008 05:44 PM

Of course I'm biased...but I don't see a later model 348 or spider on the list. Prices have bottomed and are now started up. Power acceptable, none of the 355 headaches... (headers, valve guides). great car.

Chrishawk4 03-15-2008 06:18 PM

I was also surprised to not see the 348 on the list, that would've been one of my first choices if I had a reasonable budget to spend on a Ferrari. One of the best Ferraris in my opinion:D

bbshriver 03-15-2008 07:23 PM

550- It was the only 12 on the list :D

Boxer 03-15-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t1fosI (Post 64062)
Is there a downside to the 550?

Yes, the leading edge on black tip of the front lip spoiler is very low and it is hard to judge the exact location and distance when parking, especially in a city. You will need to budget for a a couple of repairs.

Other than that, it is pretty perfect.

355F1FUN 03-16-2008 12:43 AM

Ferrari knowledge
 
These polls are great for my Ferrari education. The results are interesting to see the overall ranks, when comparing models side by side.

Everyone has thier own criteria for any car, but it's tough for me to vote without having the hands on driving experience. I learn a great deal from you guys reading your posts, and hope to acquire 2 or 3 Ferraris, while I'm young enough to get in and out of them! I really want to take a driving course for sure. My 355F1, is the only Ferrari I have ever driven! I know she has some quirks,a nd pain in the ass, and wallet maintinence issues. Not looking forward to the engine removal and service bill come 15,000 miles is it? Don't tell me, I don't want to know today.
Budget has everything to do with my decision as well. Mine was 100K. I'm with boxer on the 550 Barchetta, just looking at it!
So I'm not voting, but just learning.

Thanks for the insight!:)


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