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post #1 of 24 Old 11-04-2005, 05:11 AM Thread Starter
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Best every day FERRARI

Hi everyone, I want to purchase a second ferrari for every day use,for just me. I want a car with no clutch,like a F-1 or automatic. A car as dependable as regular cars. Does anyone have opinions on witch FERRARI would be best for this purpose? I'm 58 years old married with no children. :roll:

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post #2 of 24 Old 11-04-2005, 08:21 AM
 
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I would think a 360 Modena with the F1 tranny would suit you best.
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The 360 would fit you, the F430 is already too 'racy'

How's your budget? Maybe you can look out for a 575M ?
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From other posts Ive assumed the 12 cylinder models break in well and tend not to cause problems when they're driven regularly. You should check out the threads in the 'modern models' section about boxer on his hunt for a 550.


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550 doesn't have a (semi) automatic clutch
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550 doesn't have a (semi) automatic clutch
You can get it in an automatic, but if you want the F1 you'll have to go with the 575M. Again, lots of comments about it in Boxer's hunt for his 550.
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Mondial t with valeo clutch.
Mechanism is reputed to be extremely reliable.
Valeo cars are also noticeably rare in US: especially coupes 8)

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If the F1 transmission is a must then clearly the best everyday car with this option is the 575M. The 612 might be a close second but 2+2s typically cost more for repairs.

The 360 isn't comfortable enought for everyday use, the 550/575 is.
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I see several options given the criteria:

Mondial t with Valeo clutch - extremely rare, never seen one come to market in the last 3 years.
612 with the F1 gear box - $$$$$$
575 M with the F1 gear box - slightly less expensive than the 612, very reliable.
456A - cheap to buy, potential more expensive than the 575 M to run.
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I would recommend the same as boxer, but I did see some Valeo's come up for sale. But very rare.
550's are not for sale with an automatic gearbox like I read here. 550's only come with the manual gearbox.
575 with manual or F1
456 (M) with both manual or automatic
612 with manual or F1
8 cylinders are cheaper though, but less usable for everyday use. The 355, 360, and 430 are all available with manual or F1 box
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Thanks for All your help! After All conciderations I'm going for the 575M it seems to fit my needs. I've heard nothing but good about this car.I need to drive one soon. The only negative is its not a drop top like the 360 spyder,but I have my mondial 348t cab.(valeo) for that. I guess I'll start looking for my next FERRARI now. Thanks again, I'll keep you posted on my search.

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Thanks for All your help! After All conciderations I'm going for the 575M it seems to fit my needs. I've heard nothing but good about this car.I need to drive one soon. The only negative is its not a drop top like the 360 spyder,but I have my mondial 348t cab.(valeo) for that. I guess I'll start looking for my next FERRARI now. Thanks again, I'll keep you posted on my search.

Superamerica .... thats got a really cool drop top .. he he
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the Superamerica is all you need, my friend

donīt forget to purchase the modified suspension (Fiorando something, I donīt remember )

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but I have my mondial 348t cab.(valeo) for that.
There is no such thing as a mondial 348t cabrio valeo...
you may have a mondial t cabrio valeo, which based on the 348. How does the valeo system drive? It looks a bit odd to me.
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According to the FERRARI BUYERS GUIDE "couple of handfulls "(I've not been able to find any documented quantity) of late Mondial 348 t's most I believe were cabs,I don't know of any coupes, were fitted with a electro mechanical clutch manufactured by the french company VALEO. THe best Guesses I've Gotten is about 30 cars were done total,with 20 that were deliverd to the US. This unit was developed for the Lancia rally racing team.They won two back to back world championships with this system.This car was tested at the time by ROAD & TRACK and was referred to as the Mondial 348t Valeo. Like the F-1 its birth was in racing. I've driven mine for twelve years and have not had a single problem with it. I's a blast to drive once you get the "feel" down.I personally think it's the best of both worlds it's just a fast as the F-1(1/10th of a second). I'ts a standard Ferrari 5 sp. manual gated shifter delivering all the feel of a manual gear box,a computer controls the clutch instead of a pedal.I hope I've helped explain how it came to be and works.

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I still think it's called the Mondial T Valeo Cabriolet without the 348 suffix. Do you have an owners manual which mentions the official name?
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I still think it's called the Mondial T Valeo Cabriolet without the 348 suffix. Do you have an owners manual which mentions the official name?
Agreed. The only thing about that car that was 348-esque was the engine. However, Dr. Bob is right about the name.

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Hi everyone, I want to purchase a second ferrari for every day use,for just me. I want a car with no clutch,like a F-1 or automatic. A car as dependable as regular cars. Does anyone have opinions on witch FERRARI would be best for this purpose? I'm 58 years old married with no children. :roll:
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I want a car with no clutch,like a F-1 or automatic
A Ferrari with an automatic??!?!? How dare you sir!

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Dr. Bob, you are absolutley correct about the 348 suffix. The offical name of the model in the owners manual is: "1993 Mondial t cabrio U.S. version"The manual does include a section and diagrams on the "electronic controlled clutch". The manufacturer name of VALEO is not mentioned. The Ferrari buyers guide and other publications refer to them as "VALEO cars. The "Facts"on these cars are hard to find . Maybe some others out there could help me discover them (like how many were actually made?). I sometimes refer to the 348t when talking, simply because it is the engine and configuraton in the car. All I was trying to do was give you a perspective of an actual owner and driver of this rare FERRARI. Those are the facts.

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