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1 day trip to Burgundy

Today, my mother joined me for a early morning departure with "D" from Switzerland to Beaune, Burgundy, a 600km daytrip roundway. Wonderful weather and no traffic brought us thru the Jura mountains down to the Le Levernois Relais&Chateaux near Beaune, where we enjoyed a wonderful lunch. Departure at 3pm and a spirited drive thru forrests, little alps and beautiful scenery, while 12 birdies were singing the song, brought us back around 6. It is sometimes a nice gift to live in the center of Europe.
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To me, it is always fascinating to realize, how small and narrow "old cars" seem to be when parked next to more modern ones...
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Sounds / looks like a brilliant day out. Thanks for sharing.

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To me, it is always fascinating to realize, how small and narrow "old cars" seem to be when parked next to more modern ones...
Very interesting. Your car looks tiny next to the other cars. Sounds like you had a lovely day.

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Enjoy the journey so much you don't care how long it takes to get there.
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..... It is sometimes a nice gift to live in the center of Europe.
Green with envy down here!!! The words 'living the dream' immediately spring to mind.

I'm glad you and your mother had such a wonderful day. We all should be reminded to squeeze as many of these into our lives as possible.

"D" looks positively "brutish" parked on the side of the road and yet "cute" next to those SUVs. I think it is just a reflection that everything modern is larger ...TVs, fridges, ovens and even supercars!

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Beautiful region in France
Especially St Laurent and Montrachet

Your car looks amazing parked in the lot with the other cars
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Beautiful region in France
Especially St Laurent and Montrachet

Your car looks amazing parked in the lot with the other cars



Ah... you are a "connaiseur" I see ! Yes Mersault, Puligny-Montrachet and Chassagne Montrachet are the places to go for the spectacular Whites (not the shark's this time around ;-) ).
However this time we shortly went to the Clos Vouchot monestary, thats why we choose yesterdays red accordingly.

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For 18 years, my wife and I visited France every year (alternating between Bordeaux and Burgundy and visiting just about every nook and cranny in the country).

France has the best wine, food and scenery of all countries in my opinion and experience. I could easily reside in an area near St Tropez, Salon, St Emilion, Beaune, Carcassonne, Nice, et al. And, the French people are extremely friendly and thankful to the US military, especially in Calais and Le Havre areas. The only downside is they wanted to practice their English language skills while I wanted to practice my French.

I need to go back soon for a visit
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For 18 years, my wife and I visited France every year (alternating between Bordeaux and Burgundy and visiting just about every nook and cranny in the country).

France has the best wine, food and scenery of all countries in my opinion and experience. I could easily reside in an area near St Tropez, Salon, St Emilion, Beaune, Carcassonne, Nice, et al. And, the French people are extremely friendly and thankful to the US military, especially in Calais and Le Havre areas. The only downside is they wanted to practice their English language skills while I wanted to practice my French.

I need to go back soon for a visit
Your comment is very interesting for me. I have and do travel France back and force as well as it takes only 45' for me to enter France. However my experiences are partially opposite and many things have turned to the bad in France imo. I talk with many entrepreneurs and they have to tell me alot.....mainly about that terrible Situation in every respect.
No offense to anybody...but it seems that France econmically and maybe also politically is on the verge of falling apart into big opposite poles thanks to extrem socialistic behaviors within society and voters. The south hates the north, workers the entrepreneurs. Second, if you drive thru France on these long empty roads and pass from time to time a village you get the feeling of deep rooted poverty. villages are "ghosted" thanks to centralism and terrible conditions and situations for investors.
Of course it is nice to travel thru France and enjoy their spectacular wines, but that is just a small part of importance in life. I feel more save to travel with a F-car to Italy than France these days.
Fact is: France needs to reshape their society, believes and political system pretty quick and dearly, otherwise the "good and aplenty" times in france will be a thing of the past, sadly so.
And in respect to behaviors of French People towards americans...well books have been written about that. Without the americans, the french would probably not raise the perfect cabernet sauvignon in the St. Julian region now but probably harvest the late wheat to make at least an acceptable "Vodka".
Don't get me wrong ... I like the French very much, speak their language...but something has to move there....

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Interesting comments to me also. My general opinion is that capitalism constructs and socialism destructs. Maybe it's the pride of ownership or something that makes an owner tend to his property/land where the tenant couldn't care less. When there is little personal ownership of an entire country it really shows to me. Of course each regime has benefactors and victims but that's another discussion.

On a lighter note - My wife used to enjoy being forced to speak Italian whilst travelling in . Now we find that the conversation is often forced into English so that they can practice it. I think that the internet is the huge driver here.

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Your comment is very interesting for me. I have and do travel France back and force as well as it takes only 45' for me to enter France. However my experiences are partially opposite and many things have turned to the bad in France imo. I talk with many entrepreneurs and they have to tell me alot.....mainly about that terrible Situation in every respect.
No offense to anybody...but it seems that France economically and maybe also politically is on the verge of falling apart into big opposite poles thanks to extreme socialistic behaviors within society and voters. The south hates the north, workers the entrepreneurs. Second, if you drive thru France on these long empty roads and pass from time to time a village you get the feeling of deep rooted poverty. villages are "ghosted" thanks to centralism and terrible conditions and situations for investors.
Of course it is nice to travel thru France and enjoy their spectacular wines, but that is just a small part of importance in life. I feel more save to travel with a F-car to Italy than France these days.
Fact is: France needs to reshape their society, believes and political system pretty quick and dearly, otherwise the "good and aplenty" times in france will be a thing of the past, sadly so.
And in respect to behaviors of French People towards americans...well books have been written about that. Without the americans, the french would probably not raise the perfect cabernet sauvignon in the St. Julian region now but probably harvest the late wheat to make at least an acceptable "Vodka".
Don't get me wrong ... I like the French very much, speak their language...but something has to move there....
Things may have changed, I haven't been back since our 9/11event.

We usually flew into Geneva, got a rental car on the FR side and went exploring for 2-3 weeks. No itinerary, no hotels. Just a map and a sense of wonder. We stumbled upon a gypsy festival in St Marie de la Mar (sp?), the burial crypt and home of Nostradamus (Salon), Bonaparte's summer "cottage" in Montpelier, best pizza and a Bordeaux in the port of Marseille, The Louvre, etc. I could go on and on about the historical sites we saw, the beautiful scenery and pleasant and friendly locals in the quaint villages and larger cities. Not to mention to Bordeaux and Burgundy vineyards in Sept/Oct during the harvest. Cognac was esp. nice to visit Hennessy and the caves. Normandy was very special given that so many Americans sacrificed their lives for the French people.

My experience was excellent and the memories of our travels are the best. I didn't see the poverty you mention, but it's been over a decade since my last visit. Italy was a whole different experience. Nice people, but they appeared to be more impoverished beyond the St Bernard Pass (Switzerland) into the larger, industrialized Italian cities.

Two countries on my bucket list are AUS and NZ. We have lots of friends living in NZ and I hope to get there in the next couple of years.

Sorry to go on and on -- France is a wonderful country to visit in my opinion.
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Things may have changed, I haven't been back since our 9/11event.

We usually flew into Geneva, got a rental car on the FR side and went exploring for 2-3 weeks. No itinerary, no hotels. Just a map and a sense of wonder. We stumbled upon a gypsy festival in St Marie de la Mar (sp?), the burial crypt and home of Nostradamus (Salon), Bonaparte's summer "cottage" in Montpelier, best pizza and a Bordeaux in the port of Marseille, The Louvre, etc. I could go on and on about the historical sites we saw, the beautiful scenery and pleasant and friendly locals in the quaint villages and larger cities. Not to mention to Bordeaux and Burgundy vineyards in Sept/Oct during the harvest. Cognac was esp. nice to visit Hennessy and the caves. Normandy was very special given that so many Americans sacrificed their lives for the French people.

My experience was excellent and the memories of our travels are the best. I didn't see the poverty you mention, but it's been over a decade since my last visit. Italy was a whole different experience. Nice people, but they appeared to be more impoverished beyond the St Bernard Pass (Switzerland) into the larger, industrialized Italian cities.

Two countries on my bucket list are AUS and NZ. We have lots of friends living in NZ and I hope to get there in the next couple of years.

Sorry to go on and on -- France is a wonderful country to visit in my opinion.


France is an interesting and wonderful country, no doubt about...I love it. That's why I hesistate to accept whats going on there lately. Your visit is almost 15 years back. I have seen the places you mentioned, also all american cementeries in the north, St. marie de la mer I was this spring. Well lets hope they turn the boat around down the road. It would be worthwhile in many aspects.

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France is an interesting and wonderful country, no doubt about...I love it. That's why I hesistate to accept whats going on there lately. Your visit is almost 15 years back. I have seen the places you mentioned, also all american cementeries in the north, St. marie de la mer I was this spring. Well lets hope they turn the boat around down the road. It would be worthwhile in many aspects.
Did you attend the Gypsy Festival?

France can't possibly any worse than the US has become in six very short years.

Federal spending in the U,S, on more than 80 low-income assistance programs is up 32% under Obama. Our welfare spending eclipses what we spend on Social Security and our Defense budgets. Free Obama phones, food stamps, unemployment payments, disability payments, Medicaid, low-income housing and the list goes on and on. Almosts 49% of the people pay no federal income taxes. And the POTUS still blames Bush.

It's the major reason why I decided to stop working and contributing to the welfare state with my hard earned income.

Sorry, off topic with my rant. France is looking pretty good to me now.
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Did you attend the Gypsy Festival?

France can't possibly any worse than the US has become in six very short years.

Federal spending in the U,S, on more than 80 low-income assistance programs is up 32% under Obama. Our welfare spending eclipses what we spend on Social Security and our Defense budgets. Free Obama phones, food stamps, unemployment payments, disability payments, Medicaid, low-income housing and the list goes on and on. Almosts 49% of the people pay no federal income taxes. And the POTUS still blames Bush.

It's the major reason why I decided to stop working and contributing to the welfare state with my hard earned income.

Sorry, off topic with my rant. France is looking pretty good to me now.
Yes, I understand everypoint you're saying, however the US is a economical powerhouse which is able to reinvent itself over and over again with products being worldclass in many, many sectors...quite opposite to France. (I have never seen Long lines of People waiting in France to get their newest product) ! I try not to fall into the fallacy of underestimating the economic power of the US. Obama will be gone someday down the road and be forgotten (like nobody is talking these days anymore about Carter)...so there is at least hope longer term.

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Lovely trip. Enjoying Europe, it is still just such a wonderful and wonderous place. Looking forward to meeting "D" soon again.


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Things may have changed, I haven't been back since our 9/11event.

.........Two countries on my bucket list are AUS and NZ. We have lots of friends living in NZ and I hope to get there in the next couple of years.

Sorry to go on and on -- France is a wonderful country to visit in my opinion.
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212- That is a really pretty region. Have not done much driving in France, usually just to Alsace- Lorraine when stationed in Germany and Calais when transiting to the UK from Germany or the low countries.

Most Americans do not realize how huge and diverse France is. We would fly low levels there in F-111s and you usually ran low on fuel before you ran out of places to fly. Huge.

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212- That is a really pretty region. Have not done much driving in France, usually just to Alsace- Lorraine when stationed in Germany and Calais when transiting to the UK from Germany or the low countries.

Most Americans do not realize how huge and diverse France is. We would fly low levels there in F-111s and you usually ran low on fuel before you ran out of places to fly. Huge.
Interesting !
Besides, the french airforce is something the french are very proud of it and opposite to the general economic situation in France, their airforce seems to be very much intact as the north african experiments lately showed. But I understand that hard core fly training for the French pilots is normally in african half deserted zones (as yours in Nevada and else I guess).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUBWdhwJTT0


The link above is nothing new to you I guess but maybe worthwhile a look for the forum members, how your daily work must have looked like......!!!
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This is one of the best threads I've read in awhile - a great balance of discussion with some beautiful pics. I love the first shot in the original post of the Daytona from the rear 3/4 view... simply wonderful.
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