Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Winter Park, Florida
Ferrari Life Posts: 470
An interview with luigi chinetti jr.: David gooding and luigi chinetti jr. Excerpt
How long did Carton have Tre Posti? Was it his only car at the time?
Well, in retrospect, I think Tre Posti was too much car for him, and maybe he didn’t quite understand what he was getting into. When we first sold it to him, he asked us to install an air-conditioning system. That was our first clue that he wasn’t going to own it for a long time. Then he complained about not being able to park it. Being a center-seat driving position, he couldn’t ever judge where the curb was. In March 1968, he sold the car back to us, and we gave him a 365 GT 2+2 – one of the first to arrive. That was more approachable for him. It had air-conditioning.
So it wasn’t a great commuter car for New York City.
Not really. After all, it was basically a “P” car, so it’s not ideal if you just want to cruise around Manhattan, take it out for dinner and drinks. That said, I never found it hard to drive. I used to drive 250 LMs around Manhattan all the time, no problem. The Westside Highway and FDR drive were the straightaways and Central Park was the real racecourse; but I knew those cars well and had raced them, so it was never a problem for me to drive a car like that in the city. We got away with murder. You could never do that today.
What happened to Tre Posti after it came back to Chinetti Motors?
We sold it to Jan De Vroom later that year. He had a brand-new 275 GTB/4, so we sold him the 365 P and took the four-cam in on trade.
De Vroom was a good client of yours, correct?
Oh, yeah, Jan De Vroom. Yeah, he was quite the character. He was this tall, blond European – born in Dutch Indonesia – and for years was very close with the Marquesa de Cuevas. Her name was Margaret, and she was the granddaughter of John D. Rockefeller – very eccentric and unusual, but she probably was one of the wealthiest women in the world at the time.
I’m not entirely sure what agreement they had, but she treated him like a son. I think they both had a passion for Mozart. She put him in business selling imported Italian glass and gave him a really beautiful house in Palm Beach. It was on El Bravo Way.
De Vroom’s money came from Margaret de Cuevas?
You know, I’m not entirely sure where exactly his money came from, but it was never in short supply. It must have come from her. De Vroom was a very good long-standing customer and every year we sold him the latest, top-of-the-line car. I remember he had that one-off 4.9 Superfast. That was a really great car. Along with George Arents, De Vroom was some of the money behind NART during the early years.
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