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We all know Ferrari quit making the front engine V-12 in the 1970s.My question is when did the 456 come out to be sold.Was the year 1993 or was the model year another year later (1994)?

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Bart- Actually, incorrect. 412 production began in 1985 and continued for a couple of years. The 365 GT4 2+2, 400, 400i and 412 were in continuous production starting in 1973. 456 production began in late 1993, but no US versions were sold until MY 1995. Most of the 456s produced in 1993 were preproduction models. All the early 456s were 6 speeds with the GTA not showing up until CY 1996 and US models were MY 1997.

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412 production continued till 1989. Ferrari never stopped building front engine v12s, its just that the 400/i and 412 were never officially imported into the US. I'm not sure if the 365 GT4 2+2 was ever imported.
Many consider the 456 to be the spiritual successor to the 365 GTC4. The 456 actually debuted in late 1992. Also there are no 1996 models because the factory stopped production due to all the quality issues the cars had

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There are no MY 96 US 456s, but there were 1996 456s made in Europe. Quality control had nothing to do with the changeover from Motronic 2.7 to Motronic 5.2, which was OBDII capable. OBDII was mandated for all US cars built after January 1996, and that explains why there were no US MY 1996 456s. Ferrari also introduced the 456 GTA with Motronic 5.2 in Summer 1996, in the US as MY 1997, along with the 5.2 456 GTs.

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Forza :: Supercar for Four : 456 Buyer's Guide : page 2

I'm quite aware of when OBDII was mandated. Actually that doesn't explain why there is no 96 model at all. That merely seems to be your opinion. Changing from 2.7 to 5.2 in the 355 didn't stop production so why would it be necessary for the 456?

So Sheehan got it wrong? Interesting.

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Sheehan gets it wrong all the time. Any of his guides are rife with errors. They should let Brian Crall proofread what he writes for Forza. Sales of the F355 in the US were a big deal, the 456 much less so. In addition to changing from Motronic 2.7 to 5.2, Ferrari was also integrating the automatic transmission for the GTA. Production of US MY 95 456s continued right up until the end of the calendar year, so there was plenty of supply, and the US MY 97s were introduced relatively early in 1996 as MY 97s here. During the time MY 96 F355s and early MY 97s were being delivered to the US in CY 96, 1996 production 456s were still being delivered to the UK and Europe, so there was only a short break in US 456 production, not in 456 production for the rest of the world. There are multiple documented ROW 456s built all through 1996 in RHD and LHD versions in Matthias Urban's book. The first GTA I see, with 5.2, was built in July/August 1996.

Sheehan tends to be very breezy with the facts and does not seem to do enough research.

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Sheehan gets it wrong all the time. Any of his guides are rife with errors. They should let Brian Crall proofread what he writes for Forza. Sales of the F355 in the US were a big deal, the 456 much less so. In addition to changing from Motronic 2.7 to 5.2, Ferrari was also integrating the automatic transmission for the GTA. Production of US MY 95 456s continued right up until the end of the calendar year, so there was plenty of supply, and the US MY 97s were introduced relatively early in 1996 as MY 97s here. During the time MY 96 F355s and early MY 97s were being delivered to the US in CY 96, 1996 production 456s were still being delivered to the UK and Europe, so there was only a short break in US 456 production, not in 456 production for the rest of the world. There are multiple documented ROW 456s built all through 1996 in RHD and LHD versions in Matthias Urban's book. The first GTA I see, with 5.2, was built in July/August 1996.

Sheehan tends to be very breezy with the facts and does not seem to do enough research.
I have that impression since a long time also by a certain "business and approach attitude". But maybe just my personal experience.
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Sheehan tends to be very breezy with the facts and does not seem to do enough research.
That might be but the guy has a wealth and history of real world / hands on knowledge.....anyone with a book can be book-smart.
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Affirmative, but there are a lot of people with a wealth of knowledge and hands on experience that get the details correct, too.

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That might be true as well but Michael has earned his place and the respect he garners, very few of us are perfect. I will leave it at that.
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