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Cartridge or Spin-On Oil Filters

Never heard which the newer (2000-present) Ferrari's have, Cartridge or Spin-On Oil Filters?
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Never heard which the newer (2000-present) Ferrari's have, Cartridge or Spin-On Oil Filters?








Ferrari has used spin on filters since the 50's.
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The 458 Italia is the first and so far, only one to switch to a cartridge type filter. The V12's are still using the old spin on type.


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The 458 Italia is the first and so far, only one to switch to a cartridge type filter. The V12's are still using the old spin on type.
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The 458 Italia is the first and so far, only one to switch to a cartridge type filter. The V12's are still using the old spin on type.


That's right.


One more reason I am not a big fan.
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That's right.


One more reason I am not a big fan.
Is it in the engine bay or underneath?
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The Germans seem to like the cartridge-type filter elements.On my Audi, they've got so far as to indicate the torque spec for the securing bolt. Probably a good thing since the housing appears to be plastic. Now if this were a Ferrari...

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The Germans seem to like the cartridge-type filter elements.On my Audi, they've got so far as to indicate the torque spec for the securing bolt. Probably a good thing since the housing appears to be plastic. Now if this were a Ferrari...
Porsche has a similar setup where a plastic cap screws into the aluminum housing on the block (with the filter cartridge pressed onto a nipple inside the cap and pressed onto another nipple on the block as you tighten the cap). The process doesn't exactly inspire confidence because you can't tell if the cartridge is seating perfectly as you tighten it. It always does, but I don't understand why they don't just use a spin-on filter and avoid that anxiety.
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I work on quite a few cartridges. All the ones I've worked on have been really easy to know when it's seated. The threads stop firmly. But by far the best manufactured cartridge canister are on 60's Unimogs, ALL ALUMINUM.
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Cutter- You can visualize how many things work in Ferraris by looking at the parts catalog pages online on Ricambi's website. Of course there are some major errors in those, too, like some flat plane crank drawings showing cross plane cranks, but still a good tool for use. Ferrari tech data tends to be touch and go, and it takes experience we amateurs do not have to know when to call BS.

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I work on quite a few cartridges. All the ones I've worked on have been really easy to know when it's seated. The threads stop firmly. But by far the best manufactured cartridge canister are on 60's Unimogs, ALL ALUMINUM.
My E46 M3 had a setup similar to what you see on some MB's. It had an aluminum housing with an aluminum cap (with a long o-ringed bolt that ran through the whole shabang). That is a good setup. Easy and clean.

The trouble with the Porsche is that it takes a fair amount of force to snap the filter onto the nipples (on each end). It works everytime, but you can't feel it snapping in as you thread it. So, you always wonder if instead of seating you just crushed the cartridge like a paper towel roll being pushed on each end.

In general, I really prefer the spin-on filters. It's just a better setup IMHO.
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I'm pretty sure we all agree with you bretm. Don't fix what ain't broken.
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Cutter- You can visualize how many things work in Ferraris by looking at the parts catalog pages online on Ricambi's website. .
Great advice Taz, already using Ricambi.
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