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What is the ultimate 'old school' open top sports car?

I have a 16M and don't get me wrong, I love it. It is great on a race track but on a normal road, aside from it's killer looks, it never sings in more than 2nd or 3rd gear.

I would like to also get an old school manual sports car. A nimble car where the power is such that you can enjoy a spirited drive, use the torque, gears, rpm's to have a fast drive that makes the engine sing.

The closest I had in the past was a mazda mx5 (miata) but I had mine massively turbo'd. I also had a 930 turbo cab.

An Dino seams the obvious choice but BB's? Alfas? Vettes? Fiats? Minis?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Hi David,

I have to say my first choice would be a Porsche Boxter S manual. Quick and well balanced, not over powered like a good sports car should be, and pretty bullet proof. Plus not massively expensive for a good example down under.

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Thanks for the prompt advice Michael, I just looked on carsales.com.au and it seems that $40,000 to 60,000 will get you a good one. Keep sliding that Monaro sideways mate!!!

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You could go really old shcool:
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I have a 16M and don't get me wrong, I love it. It is great on a race track but on a normal road, aside from it's killer looks, it never sings in more than 2nd or 3rd gear.

I would like to also get an old school manual sports car. A nimble car where the power is such that you can enjoy a spirited drive, use the torque, gears, rpm's to have a fast drive that makes the engine sing.

The closest I had in the past was a mazda mx5 (miata) but I had mine massively turbo'd. I also had a 930 turbo cab.

An Dino seams the obvious choice but BB's? Alfas? Vettes? Fiats? Minis?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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A cheap option is the Honda S2000. Very reliable car,convertible,great sound,9.000 rpm redline and of course manual for having a nice big smile on the face.Another good option would be a W208 Mercedes CLK cabrio in the top Kompressor variant. Again cheap to buy,reliable and not a lot of tuning needed to make it a good everyday sport cruiser.Big advantage is the low rpm torqu generated by the M113 Kompressor 2.0L engine,btw the BEST ever engine till today by Mercedes according to experts.
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Thanks guys for your replies. I see that I am going to get a long list, then have hours of fun test driving.

This will be my summer project,

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Interesting question and I recognise your situation totally. You're also absolutely right about the Dino fitting the bill perfectly. Here are some older sports cars that sing the gears out without the 430's immediate illegal speeds. My choices include no modern cars and with emphasis on relatively small and nimble cars. Any of these cars will put a huge smile on your face and they all have the style of a gentleman's sports car.

246 Dino
308
308 Dino
328
Fiat Dino
911 2,7 RS
911 S, E
Renault Alpine A110
Honda S800
Lotus Elan
Lotus Super seven
Alfa Romeo GTA
Lancia Stratos
AC Cobra narrow body
E-Type lightweight
Fiat Spider Abarth
Fiat 500 Abarth
Lancia Aurelia

And if you reeeaaally want to stay within speed limits: Rolls Royce Corniche DHC

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You could go really old shcool:
Ahhhh, style in perfection, although a handful at times (as well for your mechanic)

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Thanks guys for your replies. I see that I am going to get a long list, then have hours of fun test driving.

This will be my summer project,

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David, 308 GTS all the way as you'll get a Good one for about 17-20% of the price of a 246GTS? If only style then 246 GTS. Have Seen nearby me a chopped 365 GTC/4 convertible in dark pozzi blue with Borranis polished. Even if I do not like alterations from originality, that car looks stunning........and its a V-12!!!!

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David, I tend to go along the line of Capo.

My choice would be the Fiat Dino 2400 or 2000 Spider.

Both are wonderful open, front V6 Dinos. Between the two, the 2400 is more desirable because of less made, more hp, and above all, supposedly made by Ferrari.

As 212 said, open V12 would be more desirable, however, based on your givens, I would choose Dinos. Those motors with chains would sooth your auditory sense.

A Daytona spider would be lovely, but very expensive and besides you already have a beautiful M16 to please you.

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Thanks guys for the advice. I have been searching for the Fiat Jimmy for most of this year with no luck. I don't know if there are even any down here. I am going to create a big list from your recommendations, track down those I can and test drive. I will try to post the prices down here, as well as try to give some reviews/pics where I can. Goodnight All.

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David, see if I can upload few shots of a Fiat Dino Spider 2000 that is for sale here in Tokyo. The broker imported from Italy early this year. HIs price is 9,800,000 I believe. A 2400, if available would probably run 30 to 50% more !

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PS. Sorry, I tried uploading pics but to no avail. Here is the link, and hope this works. www.cavallino-cars.com/stocklist/011/index.html

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David, see if I can upload few shots of a Fiat Dino Spider 2000 that is for sale here in Tokyo. The broker imported from Italy early this year. HIs price is 9,800,000 I believe. A 2400, if available would probably run 30 to 50% more !

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PS. Sorry, I tried uploading pics but to no avail. Here is the link, and hope this works. 1969y Fiat Dino spider 2.0
Stunning car, but isn't there an issue about importing LHD cars into Oz?

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John, I think you are correct. Probably David would attest to the fact that those Aussie customs are pain in the b#%t going by the books.

However, the Abarth I bought came from Sydney, Australia and this is a LH car that was imported to Australia from the US by the previous owner (from the records I have). So there must be exceptions of some kind ?

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David, see if I can upload few shots of a Fiat Dino Spider 2000 that is for sale here in Tokyo. The broker imported from Italy early this year. HIs price is 9,800,000 I believe. A 2400, if available would probably run 30 to 50% more !

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PS. Sorry, I tried uploading pics but to no avail. Here is the link, and hope this works. 1969y Fiat Dino spider 2.0
Stunning car, but isn't there an issue about importing LHD cars into Oz?
Whoops! Iseem to have posted this twice by mistake. How do I delete this?

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246 Dino Yes.
308 Only driven one for about 30 kms. Vetroresina in bad shape. Still wish i bought it....
308 Dino Yes. Like the styling and driving is just great!
328 Havenīt driven ours, as still factory miles! The other was just perfect and nice to drive!
Fiat Dino
911 2,7 RS
911 S, E Not my cup of tea, but had a nice torque curve.
Renault Alpine A110
Honda S800 OHHH JEAHHH. The sound at 12.000 is just amazing! Nice to drive, but no torque below 3.500. Driven ours a lot this summer!
Lotus Elan
Lotus Super seven
Alfa Romeo GTA
Lancia Stratos Dream car besides the 308 Vetroresina (couldīt choose between them)
AC Cobra narrow body
E-Type lightweight The S1 E-Type i drove had to big tyres and the susp. setting was wrong... But nice engine!
Fiat Spider Abarth
Fiat 500 Abarth
Lancia Aurelia

And if you reeeaaally want to stay within speed limits: Rolls Royce Corniche DHC Grandpa has a Bentley Cornice Cabriolet. Nice Cruiser, but the Automatic GB kills every single Horse the engine is producing.

The Honda S2000 as F.Alexandros mentioned is a great choice. We hade some and we still want the last back. Was so great to drive through the hills! Sold it for the Z06.

I have two classic Minis and my dad also has one (but my mom is driving it. great city car). They are a lot fun to drive! Can be very fast on twisty roads and easy to give pressure on modern sport cars with some suspension mods. But need a lot attention and maintaince! (esp. my Turbo one)

The MX5 (Miata) is just great. (besides i nearly died in one while my friend tryed to drift it. We gone down the hill backwards between two trees with about 10 cm each side. Would like to have one, but memories are still bad). Great to drive and nice engine and perfect suspension!


BB is great. But maybe to great what You are looking for. You need only 3 gears for cruising (1st, 3rd and 5th. Engine would cope with a 2 gear Automatic ) If driven in anger, a 355 has big problems!

Z06 is very serious. But maybe to much as the BB.
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275 GTS, but they have gotten pretty expensive lately.

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275 GTS, but they have gotten pretty expensive lately.

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I think at the end it comes on how you want to drive the car. If you are going to drive fast but smoothly then there is no problem going with classic cars,but you are going to drive it till it is only for the crusher,then it's not owrth buying a something expensive. In Greece for example many people buy small or medium sized cars,tune them and get the hell out of them. When the engine is to be thrown away or the chassis is gone they simply transfer all the tuning parts to the next car and keep having an awful lot of fun,and all that for very little money.
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