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post #1 of 14 Old 03-07-2012, 12:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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First Ferrari (looking at 308 or Testarossa) How do I drive it?!

So I have driven stick shift before. Many different cars, Mercedes, BMW, Honda. But never a Ferrari. I have test driven one (Mondial so far) it didnt shut off and I had no problem changing gears. But I have read a few things I am confused about. Below are two quotes can someone further explain them to me?

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I have always warmed up the engine prior to driving - I wait till the oil temp gauge kick up -and then drive no higher then 3,000 RPM for a few miles and shift from 1st to 3rd till trans is at operating temp. This is one of the reasons the trans feels and shifts like new! NO syncro issues, no noises. Easily downshifts without double clutching, etc.

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Ferrari's are meant to be driven hard, that’s better than any garage queen

So for Quote 1 I'm a bit unclear on the shifting from 1st to 3rd. I only drive about 2 miles to work in the morning, however I live in southern CA so should I still wait for the oil to heat?

Quote 2 I know what a garage queen is (Testarossa with 5 miles) but explain the driving hard? Like high speeds? Downshifting for acceleration?

Finally any other thoughts about what you wish you knew about Ferrari's and the way to drive them let me know! How have you changed the way you drive now that you drive a Ferrari?

Thanks guys this is my second thread on this forum the first one stopped me from buying a Mondial so I am now in the market for a 308 or Testarossa. Going from a childhood dream to a reality! I will have one soon!!!

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Both quotes are correct. You want to drive the car calmly until the engine and transmission oils have warmed up to proper operating temperature. Driving the car hard while it's still cold can be detrimental.

However, once she's warm, feel free to be aggressive. I liken it to sex with a lover: you want to take things slowly at first. But once she trusts you, you've got the green light to start spanking and pulling hair.

If you drive a Ferrari calmly all the time, you'll have synchro issues and carbon deposits will gum things up. The term "Italian tuneup" exists for a reason. Once she's warm, have fun - drive fast, accelerate hard, downshift (if you can properly rev-match), and your Ferrari ownership will be a very rewarding experience.

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I liken to sex with a lover: you want to take things slowly at first. But once she trusts you, you've got the green light to start spanking and pulling hair.
WOW.
that might be the best thing I've ever heard.
And it just might send my wife over the edge!

And adihed, forgive me for asking; how old are you? Sometimes an internet forum can play mean tricks on syntax and make someone appear much younger than they really are.

Your first thread was talking about a choice between two under-priced cars; a sub-$20k Mondial and a sub-$30k 308. and you were worried about maintenance costs on them.

your 2nd thread jumps to a decision between a 308 and a TR! It also makes mention that you "have driven stick shifts before", as though this weren't assumed.

Forgive me for questioning your seriousness?
but, if this is sheer enthusiasm, I'm right there with ya! Keep cheering yourself on!

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It's a myth that you need to warm up an engine at standstill. Let the engine settle to nice idling and then start driving softly bringing it to around 2.500rpm. If second is tough, go directly to third. In around five minutes you can hit 3.000 and shortly 3.500+.When the oil passes 60 degrees C you can start using the whole rev band but "feel" your transmission before starting to rip hard through the gears.

Synchro wear is linear to work load and shifting speed. Calm driving means less general mechanical wear, this goes for the synchronization rings as well.

No fuel injected modern engine will suffer from constant calm driving, the driver will suffer though... There will be no additional carbon deposited. If you missmatch the choke on a carburettor engine, combined with constant calm driving and very short trips, you may get carbon deposits in and around the combustion chamber. However, most carbon deposits actually come from worn valve stem guides and worn piston rings and the deposits come from the engine oil sipping past the valve stem guides and the piston rings, it is not from a calm drive style. The deposits originates from constant hard driving rather than soft driving but more so from poor engine maintenance combined with much mileage.

Never ever put high load on a cold engine. The mechanical tolerances in the engine are optimized for a hot engine. A cold engine under hard work load will suffer from excessive mechanical wear due to improper tolerances.

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And adihed, forgive me for asking; how old are you? Sometimes an internet forum can play mean tricks on syntax and make someone appear much younger than they really are.

Your first thread was talking about a choice between two under-priced cars; a sub-$20k Mondial and a sub-$30k 308. and you were worried about maintenance costs on them.
Yes I did post that. I am 32 and have always wanted a Ferrari. What happened was I thought the Mondail at 13K was a pure STEAL of a deal. I thought people would go nuts on the forum and tell me to grab the deal of a lifetime. But you all set me straight. I read all your comments like it was an obession and then guess what?...I put my 2007 Porsche 911 S on the market. I'm selling it and replacing it with a strong well thought out Ferrari. So thats the deal. Why did I make a drastic switch to a more expensive 308 or even the Testarossa? Its my dream to drive a Ferrari and a good one within a few months. Ain't nobody killin' my dream! How is that for syntax?
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Yes I did post that. I am 32 and have always wanted a Ferrari. What happened was I thought the Mondail at 13K was a pure STEAL of a deal. I thought people would go nuts on the forum and tell me to grab the deal of a lifetime. But you all set me straight. I read all your comments like it was an obession and then guess what?...I put my 2007 Porsche 911 S on the market. I'm selling it and replacing it with a strong well thought out Ferrari. So thats the deal. Why did I make a drastic switch to a more expensive 308 or even the Testarossa? Its my dream to drive a Ferrari and a good one within a few months. Ain't nobody killin' my dream! How is that for syntax?
Good for you adihed. A well thought out Ferrari is the way to go. If you're anything like me, once you decide what you want, you want it yesterday. It's taken me years to realise that half the fun is in the hunt and I still only half believe that. Still, a slow and steady approach to a first Ferrari buy, coupled with some unparalleled advice from Ferrari Life should see you in the seat of your dream car before long. Good luck with the search.!

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Its my dream to drive a Ferrari and a good one within a few months. Ain't nobody killin' my dream!
Don't sell the Porsche yet, you have more than a few months of homework to do....

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Don't sell the Porsche yet, you have more than a few months of homework to do....
Now that's a sound advice, which is the only thing we can give you: Advice....

We all have our preferences, thoughts and our most popular models....however, 1 thing that will allmost everybody tell you on this forum: don't only decide based on emotion! Be sure to go see more then 1 car, talk to owners and specialists, and drive as many F's as you can to find out what type will fit you as they all have different charactaristics and then make up your mind which one to go for. It might/will save you a lot of trouble and cash in the long run. When you find the one you want, do not buy without a proper PPI done by a Ferrari specialist. Buying a Ferrari is easy, owning and maintaining one something completely different. Enjoy the hunt, it's a great experience!

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Its my dream to drive a Ferrari and a good one within a few months. Ain't nobody killin' my dream! How is that for syntax?

Good for you dood. That's what I'm talking about. You're on a "go get it" mission, but still listening to the guys here who know.
that's smart... and fun to watch at the same time!
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I may part with my TR and 360 and buy a 430 Spider

TR has several mods (carbon glass rear decklid - or bonnet as the Brits would say - HRE 18" wheels, P-Zeros, Brembo F40 brakes, carbon heat shield, Tubi with cat delete)

Good contrast pic here against a standard TR
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I may part with my TR and 360 and buy a 430 Spider

TR has several mods (carbon glass rear decklid - or bonnet as the Brits would say - HRE 18" wheels, P-Zeros, Brembo F40 brakes, carbon heat shield, Tubi with cat delete)
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I may part with my TR and 360 and buy a 430 Spider

TR has several mods (carbon glass rear decklid - or bonnet as the Brits would say - HRE 18" wheels, P-Zeros, Brembo F40 brakes, carbon heat shield, Tubi with cat delete)

Good contrast pic here against a standard TR
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I like the mods. Is that a dash cover? Pic above looks black.

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Adihed,

Good decision. I think the 308 is one of the most iconic Ferrari's one can one other than perhaps the TR. Both are sound choices, far better than the mondial, unless you have a special love for that particular car.

I know many will believe that I jumped too quickly on the car I purchased this weekend, but I really spent several hours trying to find a reason to not buy it. Approach these cars with a jaded eye. If you cannot find flaws then you aren't looking hard enough. I got lucky. It was the right car, price, and condition.

Knowing where the bodies are buried so to speak is half the battle. Glad to hear that you are looking for the right car.
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If this is your first Ferrari I would still HIGHLY recommend that you get into a 308. The GTS is more fun for the weekend enthusiast while the GTB keeps the original lines intact and many say its more beautiful. The repair bills will be significantly cheaper than a Testarossa and you can do a lot of the repair work yourself. This is probably a better way to break you into a Ferrari than jumping headfirst to a TR. Dont get me wrong, LOTS of guys have done just that with few issues at all.

For me the 308 GTS was exactly what I wanted for thirty years before I got mine. I love to take the top out and cruise around. The sun on my head and the sound of the Ferrari engine behind me is unlike anything else I have ever experienced. It may not be as fast as a Testarossa or have the Flat 12 sound, but its got plenty of power for around town driving and is quite quick enough on the highway for anything that anyone would ever need to do.



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