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champagne, a 599?

I recall you were considering a 599, one just listed here on FL:

For Sale Black Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano for $289900 - Ferrari Life
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He also wants a 16M, a scud and a wrecked F50!
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He also wants a 16M, a scud and a wrecked F50!
LOL

I tried to do the 8 cylinder - but after owning a v12 it's just too good to leave that arena.

The 599 would have to be an HGTE - but yes I am hoping to pursue the wreckage.
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that's a nice car! love the tan interior..

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Doug- If you get a pre-HGTE car with CCMs, F of Atlanta just quoted a price of $8900 (before discount) for an HGTE suspension kit (springs, bar, ECU, no wheels I believe). That is pretty reasonable.

I also know one guy with a really beautiful early car with CCMs and the HGTE wheels, suspension, and exhaust if you are interested. Silverstone with burgundy and it is beautiful.

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but yes I am hoping to pursue the wreckage.
really?

why?

so it can keep the Austin Healey company in your garage?

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Don't discourage him Chas!!!
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Doug- If you get a pre-HGTE car with CCMs, F of Atlanta just quoted a price of $8900 (before discount) for an HGTE suspension kit (springs, bar, ECU, no wheels I believe). That is pretty reasonable.

I also know one guy with a really beautiful early car with CCMs and the HGTE wheels, suspension, and exhaust if you are interested. Silverstone with burgundy and it is beautiful.
I know the guy

Terry I would want the factory HGTE - they have dropped and continue to drop hard - 2010 for 250k asking price down in Naples.

Will wait for the 599 replacement for the next big drop - first one came when the GTO owners took delivery.

Anyway - the interior just seems more fitting with the exterior when it's all wrapped up with HGTE goodies everywhere.

8900 is super cheap considering what it was originally.
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really?

why?

so it can keep the Austin Healey company in your garage?

The thought and act of restoring an F50 would never get boring.

I like challenges - and this way when / if it all works out when you or Corbin wreck it the cherry will have already been popped!
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Doug- I think the parts guy said that even included the Corsa tires, which would be good for 4-5000 miles of fun, at most.

A later car with HGTE is a better deal. You get all the goodies that go with the package, including the 85 ms shifting. As if I could tell the difference between 100 ms and 85 ms in shifting. I have seen those seats without the alcantara, too, and they look very attractive. Not fond of alcantara, for some reason. Reminds me of those fuzzy velour paintings, I guess, or my mouse fur dashes that always looked pretty bad, even when fairly new.

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Doug- I think the parts guy said that even included the Corsa tires, which would be good for 4-5000 miles of fun, at most.

A later car with HGTE is a better deal. You get all the goodies that go with the package, including the 85 ms shifting. As if I could tell the difference between 100 ms and 85 ms in shifting. I have seen those seats without the alcantara, too, and they look very attractive. Not fond of alcantara, for some reason. Reminds me of those fuzzy velour paintings, I guess, or my mouse fur dashes that always looked pretty bad, even when fairly new.
I agree - alcantara is the new thing for many - the smell of Ferrari leather quality stitching and craftsmanship of the coach is a major asset.

My favorites are the ones with leather over the air vents console etc vs cf.

I still don't trust cf discoloring and a lot of guys don't take care proper care of the cf or have issues addressed under warranty.
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I agree - alcantara is the new thing for many - the smell of Ferrari leather quality stitching and craftsmanship of the coach is a major asset.

My favorites are the ones with leather over the air vents console etc vs cf.

I still don't trust cf discoloring and a lot of guys don't take care proper care of the cf or have issues addressed under warranty.
think of carbon fiber with clear coating as a piece of varnished furniture or wood that that is exposed to sunlight... the clear finish is only as good as the UV filters in it... given enough exposure to sunlight it will deteriorate...
like varnished wood it is renewable...or cover it with your preferred leather
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think of carbon fiber with clear coating as a piece of varnished furniture or wood that that is exposed to sunlight... the clear finish is only as good as the UV filters in it... given enough exposure to sunlight it will deteriorate...
like varnished wood it is renewable...or cover it with your preferred leather
100% renewable?

When you state clear finish - it there a process and or product that can be applied to keep it's original luster by a non pro?
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Clear will be some sort of clear coat type poly paint.

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The thought and act of restoring an F50 would never get boring.

I like challenges - and this way when / if it all works out when you or Corbin wreck it the cherry will have already been popped!
hahaha!

if I get to drive/wreck it then start bidding!
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100% renewable?

When you state clear finish - it there a process and or product that can be applied to keep it's original luster by a non pro?
CF clear finish is 100% renewable, the furniture/wood analogy applies.

Native CF finish is less than glossy smooth, it is not like a gelcoat surface that is smooth paint like when it comes from the mold. Native CF needs to be either painted (opaque) or clear coated with product that contains UV filters to prevent degradation of the resins that bond.

CF is clear coated to show off the pattern of the weave of the carbon fibers and to provide a glossy finish. CF clear coats suffer from UV the same as clear finishes over wood. The carbon fibers themselves are not affected, but rather the resins that bond the structure weaken from extend UV exposure if unprotected, two separate events: cosmetic and structural.

Currently I am using product from Awl Grip. It is not a one step process. There are many formulations targeted for specific applications. It can be brushed, then sanded, then buffed to a high gloss finish equalling a spray application. It's pricy, about $500 for a complete "kit" at minimum quantities ( quarts... base product, activators, thinners, etc ). The product is very good, sounds complicated, really isn't, just requires combining for final product to start the curing process. CF resins can resist coatings causing them to peel, it is best to use products that are compatible for best life of the finish.
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LOL

I tried to do the 8 cylinder - but after owning a v12 it's just too good to leave that arena.

The 599 would have to be an HGTE - but yes I am hoping to pursue the wreckage.
What about a 599 GTO?
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What about a 599 GTO?
No offense to the guys who own them - but for half the price an HGTE is plenty of car for Ferrari Friday's and adding 5,000 miles a year.

16M's have dropped 100k - the GTO can't be far behind.

Now if the GTO and the Aperta were one - then it would be on the bucket list.
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Doug- Really nice, low mileage, 2010 HGTE at Boardwalk. Reassonable price, too, that likely could be lowered to $250K.

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If I wasn't so lazy, that F50 would never have made the journey it made.

I need an Aventador!
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