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HHO technology

How many of you are familiar with it? Have anyone had experience with this cheap piece of technology that supposedly increases the fuel efficiency?

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very interesting. mark will have it perfected in no time. Can't wait for that thread!



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very interesting. mark will have it perfected in no time. Can't wait for that thread!
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HHO is water guys and water doesnít burn it is the byproduct of combustion, think of it as ash. You can separate off a hydrogen and then burn that but that whole process is energy negative, it takes more to do than you get by about 50%.

This is snake oil. Basically whatís going on is a fancy looking machine that is nothing more than a water injection system. By shooting water into your engine the water vapor (steam) displaces the oxygen and reduces the engineís power output so it uses less fuel. It still takes the same hp to drive 65 on the highway, but you end up accelerating slower which saves fuel. You would get exactly the same effect from accelerating slower, ie being more gentile with the throttle.
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also, Hydrogen = Hindenburg. I wouldn't want to self experiemtn with Hydrogen and combustion or any form of ignition with that gas in it's raw state.

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I had a friend that got involved with a multi level marketing company that was publicly traded. They not only had the "greatest weight loss pill, the magic oil additive that made it so you didn't have to change your oil and treatments for several other things. I tried to explain that if they really had an oil additive that worked Valveolene or one of the other big companies would have bought the company since it was public. Like I said I HAD a friend.

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I had a friend that got involved with a multi level marketing company that was publicly traded. They not only had the "greatest weight loss pill, the magic oil additive that made it so you didn't have to change your oil and treatments for several other things. I tried to explain that if they really had an oil additive that worked Valveolene or one of the other big companies would have bought the company since it was public. Like I said I HAD a friend.
Oil change has already been proven redundant. See trabold filters.
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Oil change has already been proven redundant. See trabold filters.
More crap.

The oil needs to be changed for a couple reasons.

First is that it simply breaks down. The molecule that start as long chains get shorter and short with time and simply donít work as well. They also oxidized forming new molecules that have basically no lubricating properties at all and one just canít really selectively filter out molecules.

The second issue is the additives also break down and the only way to get then back is to add more.

On thing like ships there is often equipment that basically re-processes the oil, but it involves a whole lot more than a filter. There is a step to remove water which that filter claims it can do but that is only a small part of the job.

So, trabold filter earn a rating of utter crap, which is 1 step below BS as it not only wastes your money it can also do a lot of damage to your engine.
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More crap.

The oil needs to be changed for a couple reasons.

First is that it simply breaks down. The molecule that start as long chains get shorter and short with time and simply donít work as well. They also oxidized forming new molecules that have basically no lubricating properties at all and one just canít really selectively filter out molecules.

The second issue is the additives also break down and the only way to get then back is to add more.

On thing like ships there is often equipment that basically re-processes the oil, but it involves a whole lot more than a filter. There is a step to remove water which that filter claims it can do but that is only a small part of the job.

So, trabold filter earn a rating of utter crap, which is 1 step below BS as it not only wastes your money it can also do a lot of damage to your engine.
Are you familiar with Trabold Filters, here is what they claim:
"It is said that oil additives will deteriorate due to chemical and physical effects. Our own experiences, supported by measurements, however, indicate that this process is insignificant as long as the filter operates. The TRABOLD filter performs several duties of the additives by continuously removing water, metal and contaminant particles, and the combustion products."

They also claim that the oil gets better and better over time.

The thing about Trabold filters is that you have to run a 18 wheeler to feel the effect of money saving. There are quite a few companies in europe that equip their trucks with these filters.

http://www.trabold.net/English/
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Are you familiar with Trabold Filters, here is what they claim:
"It is said that oil additives will deteriorate due to chemical and physical effects. Our own experiences, supported by measurements, however, indicate that this process is insignificant as long as the filter operates. The TRABOLD filter performs several duties of the additives by continuously removing water, metal and contaminant particles, and the combustion products."

They also claim that the oil gets better and better over time.

The thing about Trabold filters is that you have to run a 18 wheeler to feel the effect of money saving. There are quite a few companies in europe that equip their trucks with these filters.

http://www.trabold.net/English/
I looked at the web site and itís filled with misinformation.

They quote studies from 50years ago that were conducted under unrealistic operating conditions and are in direct conflict with current studies done under actual conditions, talk about the ďadditivesĒ as only un-needed detergents while ignoring that the key components of the additives packages are high pressure lubrications like zinc that have to be in the oil for start-up and for cam/lifter life (particularly in high speed/high performance engines).

All current studies Iíve ever seen show a very clear loss of viscosity over time. All studies show a loss of additives over time. You need to change your oil and the harder you push the car and the hotter the oil is allowed to get, the more often you need to change it. Now, it you have a really good filter and you are burning enough oil to ensure a complete turn-over in the system within the manufactures recommend service interval, then you could make a claim that changing the oil is not requiredÖ..but thatís a lot of ifs, better to just change your oil and know your engine is safe.
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