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post #1 of 6 Old 03-30-2010, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
 
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good evening ferraristi,

thanks Jimmy Chen, Boxer and Gcalo voor your replay.

Another question is this, a lot af cars dont have all
documentation and some do, specially the service history.

ill foud out that if you want to buy the car the service papers
are not allways included. they will let you pay extra for it.

is this a common practice ?? when you buy a ferrari ?
i never heard this before, but it is true sometimes it is
mentioned in the adverd.

is there anybody who have experiance in importing a car
from italy ? to his own country, what i am insterested in
is the italian tricks . i allready found out that if there is
a loan on the car and you are not aware of it, you wil
take over the loan if you buy the car . how can you check this ?

oh for the anthousiast a few pics form 2009 italian car show

greatings
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good evening ferraristi,

thanks Jimmy Chen, Boxer and Gcalo voor your replay.

Another question is this, a lot af cars dont have all
documentation and some do, specially the service history.

ill foud out that if you want to buy the car the service papers
are not allways included. they will let you pay extra for it.

is this a common practice ?? when you buy a ferrari ?
i never heard this before, but it is true sometimes it is
mentioned in the adverd.

is there anybody who have experiance in importing a car
from italy ? to his own country, what i am insterested in
is the italian tricks . i allready found out that if there is
a loan on the car and you are not aware of it, you wil
take over the loan if you buy the car . how can you check this ?

oh for the anthousiast a few pics form 2009 italian car show

greatings
hans
holland
Hello hans: Never had experience with importing cars from Italy. My own experiences are France, Australia, and USA to Japan. As for the point on more cost for cars with papers, I think that is not the case. Just because the car comes with maintenance papers does not make the price of car higher. And for the ownership and loan possibility, that should be easy to verify by checking the ownership and registration papers.
I have heard of rumors with problems of dealing with Italy myself too. Broker that I know have told me before that sometimes cars disappear (stolen) at ports, etc. Just make sure the dealer is straight and verify the papers. Good luck. w/ smiles Jimmy
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There are a few ways here in US of checking if there is a loan on vehicle. Always an important thing to do first.

Most credible sellers will tell you if you ask, and then you can deal directly with the lender. Send full $ to lender, they pay off the note, send balance of $ if any to seller, and then they send you the title.

We can also check through the state's registrty of motor vehicles as the registration certificate will state if a lien is present.

It's important also to know the type of lien on vehicle. Sometimes cars are pledged only as collateral as a business loan, etc.

As to purchasing from Italy, you do have to be careful. You must know your seller. I do not know how they title vehicles, but you nee dto find out and then do your homework.

I bought my Dino in Italy in 1974. I knew the seller as he was a major vendor to me. it was a cash transaction.

As to documents as Dr. Jimmy said, papers are important but do not generally affect the car's value.

A credible seller will always have full records and documents and would be glad to pass them on. It's part of the pride of ownership.

Hope this helps.

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Regarding documentation, my experience has been that very few cars outside of the US and UK come with much history. At most you might get a stamped service book. In any case I have never been asked to pay to have the available history included in any purchase. I would be highly suspect of any dealer that tried to do this.
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Hans,

That sounds weird to me. Never, ever heard of anything like paying for maintenance history.

If the dealer's legit, as soon as he offloads the car he has no use for the papers and he'll gladly throw them in. What on earth is he going to do with those papers should you decide to buy the car without them? Nothing really, unless he plans on using them as fakes on another car somehow. But in that case, all alarm bells should be ringing on those papers with this car to begin with!

And suppose he's just trying to squeeze you for some more cash, why the hell not simply up the price a bit?

Caveat emptor!

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post #6 of 6 Old 04-04-2010, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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\thank you all for your reply,

to ipf, yes it is strange, i know sombody who bought a 355
wich was owned by a reasenable well know racing driver
and yes he had to pay for the papers . ( 350 euro or something like that )

the nice thing is that he can prove who was the first owner
and the car was delivered directly from the factory in maranello
not from a dealer that is something more extra than normal.
but anayway i saw it more often in adeverts on the internet in italy

import a car to holland, i think i run a little testcase to see how
everything works and buy before spending lots of money, a bargain
car like alfa gtv or maserati and than sel it again in holland.
but i want to examen a few cars while i am on holliday

greatings
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