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Swiss Speeding Fine in a Ferarri

One hefty fine.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8446545.stm

Is this anyone on here, I hope not.

Penalties calculated on wealth wtf?
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I remember hearing of this a few months ago, although that post shows it as today.

Only 35MPH over the limit and they have a sliding scale = $290,000!!

wow, the only good thing about that is my fine would be like $5.99....these are tough times.

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Definite violation of Due Process here in US.

Good thing some of us live w/in the protection of US Constit!
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Definite violation of Due Process here in US.

Good thing some of us live w/in the protection of US Constit!

Now now....laws are laws. If that is the local custom, then violator should have complied, and, he wanted or could afford not to....

TX, in one town, has a manditory gun carry law: some would think that a violation.

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During the last couple of years, the accused driver seems to have repeatetely broken the speed limits by huge amounts. The Swiss law is partially forgiving if you overspeed once or twice but if you do not learn after that, and massively overspeed within 5 years after your latest sentence then you got a problem especially when the breaching of max speed limits is within the urbanisation zone. The law also enables the judge since some years to value the penalty payment according to a mixture of the yearly income and the general wealth (according to the tax report). It seems the man is rich and has a very high yearly cashflow, a very negative combination in this case.

If I remember right, the basis for this case happened 2 or 3 years ago. It seems that the Ferrari owner was already sentenced for this case on Swiss states law before but choosed to raise his opposition against it to the suprime court because he (understandably) thought that this ridicoulous amount of money for overspeeding was not fair and that the jury obviously was measuring law to much according to wealth standart instead of "breaching law" standart. Sad.
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The Lindsey Lohan of drivers

Yes, I believe you are correct on that. So, if you want to be a habitual abuser, then you get the book thrown at you: GOOD.

If they did that with cell phone to head or texting while driving users, or ESPECIALLY multiple DUI persons, I would love it.

Some, just don't get it unless hit over the head with a hammer...even then....they just don't get some of the deals.

IF he wants to speed, buy a race track, expect he just made a down payment on one with that ticket.

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according to another site, supposedly he also claimed to be a diplomat.

http://www.news.com.au/world/swiss-m...-1225817189755
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Not a diplomat but I believe to remember that his argumentation on the first trials was that he's resident in the near east (by owning some property there) and could not be trialed as a Swiss citizen...which was denied by the state judge...and at it seems by the suprime court judges as well.
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seems like taking away or restricting his license would be more appropriate. Not sure how speeding relates to a 290k fine. Jail time after several violations would also be more effective i think.



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Now now....laws are laws. If that is the local custom, then violator should have complied, and, he wanted or could afford not to....
That's referred to as a judge made law! We don't have much of that here in the US thankfully!

legislatute makes laws; judges carry them out.

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That's referred to as a judge made law! We don't have much of that here in the US thankfully!

legislatute makes laws; judges carry them out.
I understand, and I could never understand some of the screwy sentences a judge hands out, which I believe happens a lot here: like wearing a sign or go to jail etc.....guess if the guilty accepts it = ok

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I told them the only problem I could find was you wearing skirts and heels!!!

Are you trucking the car down?
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I told them the only problem I could find was you wearing skirts and heels!!!?
Who says that's a problem, I'm known to color coordinate and the school girl look is IN baby.

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yup. Good ol' tripple A. had to ask them how many 100 mile tows I had left this year. I have one and beaux has three. Guess I'm good to go for next two months

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What does BK know anyway. He lives in Sacramento now!!

Yes we did screw the pooch on this thread.

Would you please better coordinate your outfits!!
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BACK on track

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What does BK know anyway. He lives in Sacramento now!!

Yes we did screw the pooch on this thread.

Would you please better coordinate your outfits!!

OK: taking that guys license or restricting him isn't where he hurts enough to stop dis'n the law.
IF not a fine then time.

I realize your take on the 'way' some enact laws, but, honestly, in the US, it takes an act of congress to get something done and, well, we see how fast that is.

Almost like this current Bullet Proof vest thingie in CA yesterday regarding criminals being able to have them or not: Judge says no, and it's off to the SC. In the mean time, people get toasted.

Then again I do subscribe to Ben Franklin's quote: [para] "those that give up freedoms to enact security deserve neither"

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The Ben Franklin idea was W's idea he ployed upon Americans who thought he had their best interests at heart.

For those of you who are not lawyers, hope you never discover exactly what W did for you believers!!!
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And too think people around here bitch about a $90 fine...
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So for them it's not fine!!!

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I live in Switzerland and I can tell that they are not kidding here with the law! I got caught at 21Km overspeeding with my F430 on a totally abandonned mountain road (that really s**ks...). 100 km/h on a mountain road is just nothing with such a car. Well, the judge took my case very seriously. As I never got caught before, I got "only" a warning and I'm on trial for 5 years. Fine was 680CHF (dito in $) which is uncomparable to xxx.xxxx$. Fortunately, Germany isn't too far away ...neither Italia...for a real drive.
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REST of the Story

Ok, another article....but the same
http://in.reuters.com/article/entert...45227420100107

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ZURICH (Reuters) - A millionaire motorist clocked up a record fine of 299,000 Swiss francs ($290,000) after Swiss police caught him racing through a village at 100 km per hour in his red Ferrari Testarossa, Swiss media reported on Thursday.
A court in the northeastern Swiss canton of St Gallen gave the millionaire the hefty penalty, which outstripped the previous record of 111,000 francs handed a Porsche driver in 2008 in Zurich, after a string of previous traffic offences.
"The accused ignored elementary traffic rules with a powerful vehicle out of a pure desire for speed," the court said in its judgement of the motorist, who clocked speeds of up to 137 km per hour on country roads, said daily Blick.
The St Gallen Cantonal Court ordered the man to dip into his 23.3 million franc fortune, which included a villa with a garage containing five luxury cars.
Court officials said they could not immediately confirm details of the case.
In October, St Gallen police pulled over another speeding motorist after he committed 15 traffic offences in 10 minutes, including driving on the hard shoulder, jumping a red light and failing to stop for police.
(Writing by Jason Rhodes; Editing by Charles Dick)
Thomson Reuters 2010


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