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The valves in my Ferrari F430 Scuderia 2009 are rattling and producing wrong sounds from the engine, so I have to ask you some important questions.

What octane booster am I allowed to use on the Ferrari F430 Scuderia 2009? As the octane in my country is ron 98 but I also want to keep it factory approved and in good shape.

I have also read the Ferrari owners manual but it said that i have to use unleaded fuel 95 octane -N.O.- but it didn't say anything about ron.
What does the abbreviation "N.O." mean?

Thank you in advance.
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post #2 of 18 Old 09-30-2009, 08:12 AM
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I do not believe it is the petrol that is causing the rattling sounds. Suggest you have the car checked immediately. 98 RON (Super Unleaded) should be fine.

For more on RON http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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yes, you are right Boxer but the valves are rattling when I accelerate uphill
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yes, you are right Boxer but the valves are rattling when I accelerate uphill
I would take it back to the dealer and have it checked out. Does not sound right at all.
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yes, you are right Boxer but the valves are rattling when I accelerate uphill

what gear and RPM combo are you using...not an insult, but sounding like the wrong choice there when going up a hill.

As Boxer states, it should not be 'rattling' ... do you mean pinging and that is why the octane question? IF incorrectly selected octane is used, on that car then YES, it may ping...but, sounds like you have a good selection so, doesn't sound like the octane is the problem

perhaps a faulty CPU setting....get is checked out: Should be easy to diagnose wrong/right via the ODBC II

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REDLINE makes a valve 'cleaner' that is VERY good to use. only about 50 US Cents / 10 gal for routine use
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you can dump the entire contents for a quick fix at $5 US per tank...

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I will recheck the car and let you know everything regarding my problem.
thanks guys for helping me out
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What does the abbreviation "N.O." mean? it is stated in the Ferrari owners manual
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What does the abbreviation "N.O." mean? it is stated in the Ferrari owners manual
Well, if you're referring to the mention of N.O. in the section dealing with fuel, I think it denotes Octane Number (but abbreviated in the Italian order: Numero di Ottano or something, my Italian is lousy), which refers to the fuel grade (usually 98 for Ferrari's I believe, at least that's what mine drinks). Essentially then, N.O. denotes the same as RON

Does that make any sense?

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it actually makes perfect sense, thanks
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This is the answer to your question Granucci:

I checked everything regarding the Ferrari F430 Scuderia and it is definitely making a pinging sound and not rattling and the pinging sound occurs when I am at second gear at 3000 rpm or 5000 rpm and accelerating heavily uphill.

I also asked about the ODBC 2 and found out that after i configure my car with it, I will lose some power from the car because it affects the compression of the car.

The owners manual told me that I have to use RON 95 octane, what does your Ferrari use and what do you think is better??
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This is the answer to your question Granucci:

I checked everything regarding the Ferrari F430 Scuderia and it is definitely making a pinging sound and not rattling and the pinging sound occurs when I am at second gear at 3000 rpm or 5000 rpm and accelerating heavily uphill.

I also asked about the ODBC 2 and found out that after i configure my car with it, I will lose some power from the car because it affects the compression of the car.

The owners manual told me that I have to use RON 95 octane, what does your Ferrari use and what do you think is better??
I always use super unleaded (98 RON) in the Ferraris.
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I always use super unleaded (98 RON) in the Ferraris.
Even 95 RON shouldn't give any concern in a 2009 430S, possibly showing differences in engine wear but only after many, many, many miles. I think something else is wrong, perhaps the tolerances on the valve guides are too big for some reason, or maybe a timing issue (perhaps software fault?).

I tend to use 98 RON when I can find it in my 550 but haven't really noticed any difference with using 95.

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Even 95 RON shouldn't give any concern in a 2009 430S, possibly showing differences in engine wear but only after many, many, many miles. I think something else is wrong, perhaps the tolerances on the valve guides are too big for some reason, or maybe a timing issue (perhaps software fault?).

I tend to use 98 RON when I can find it in my 550 but haven't really noticed any difference with using 95.

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+1, neither 95 nor 98 RON should cause this.
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Even 95 RON shouldn't give any concern in a 2009 430S, possibly showing differences in engine wear but only after many, many, many miles. I think something else is wrong, perhaps the tolerances on the valve guides are too big for some reason, or maybe a timing issue (perhaps software fault?).

I tend to use 98 RON when I can find it in my 550 but haven't really noticed any difference with using 95.

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+1, neither 95 nor 98 RON should cause this.
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your octane sounds fine. Mountains have a diff in O2/air density, so your timing/ECU might be flaky. The RPM sounds good to go for acceleration, where I would state 3K+ is best for such...but not less, which would have been my guess you were doing.

Have the ECUs/ODB checked out.

Try doing this at Sea Level too, as perhaps there might be a diff in pinging.

Jazz and boxer state correctly IMO also...something else in how it is combusting is the probelm especially on this rather new car..

BTW did you say F1 or stick. There is an ECU IIRC for the F1 that might not be doing what is needed. although, the F1 is basically a diff. type of manual shift on the same trans as the stick, there are some other factors there in regards to how it manages a shift: Have it checked out, the RPM and shift parms might not be as advertised.

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BTW did you say F1 or stick. There is an ECU IIRC for the F1 that might not be doing what is needed. although, the F1 is basically a diff. type of manual shift on the same trans as the stick, there are some other factors there in regards to how it manages a shift: Have it checked out, the RPM and shift parms might not be as advertised.
It is a Scud so would be a F1.
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It is a Scud so would be a F1.

while I was writing that, I thought it could only be an F1, but wasn't entirely sure they didn't come with stick...me bad

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we don't have redline but we do have the liquimoly, can we use liquimoly instead of redline, it is made in germany and is very recommended by porche, do you advice that I use it on that Ferrari, it is also a valve cleaner
what do you think??
BTW, it is definitely an F1
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we don't have redline but we do have the liquimoly, can we use liquimoly instead of redline, it is made in germany and is very recommended by porche, do you advice that I use it on that Ferrari, it is also a valve cleaner
what do you think??
BTW, it is definitely an F1
I am only familiar with Redline and not the German products. Guessing it might be good enough for Porsche, then good enough for Ferrari

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