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Was driving the F430 today...

When my son and i saw a convertible coming the other way. We were trying to figure out what it was, it looked very narrow with nothing particularly striking about it apart from it was an odd looking convertible. To me it looked like a 2007 convertible Toyota Celica or similar (even though theres no such car).
I am ashamed to say as it was passing by i saw it was a Ferrari California Now i have seen many parked up but not being driven on the road. Even as it was parallel with me i had to look very hard to identify it.
God there was zero road presence when that car is heading straight towards you. Its narrow and has no striking shape. Not like any other Ferraris modern or old. WTF, where's the wow factor in the California? A Ferrari should make you go wow thats unmistakably a Ferrari! saying that, not even the 599 does that even though its a great car it does not shout FERRARI!. Now i am a Tifosi through and through and i love ferrari, but i just cant get my head around what happend today
Looking at the pictures of the new 458, i would say that Ferrari might have finally made a visual work of art to make you go wow again Thank god this new car seems to be the one that breaks the boredom in the Pininfarina design studio. Large or small i personally think every Ferrari should be ENZO like striking.
I know there may be some who love the new California and thats there choice. But just take a moment to think about when you saw your first Testarossa, 3X8, 355,360s driving towards you......a whole different ball game i say
Thought i would get that out in the open
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I share a lot of your sentiment, although the 599 does have Ferrari magic for me. But the trend (in terms of looks) was going since the F430 (which I love) and so I have to agree with you that the 458 is fantastic news as it really looks like a fantastic car. Very curious to see what they will do with the next V12... and the next Enzo, for that matter.


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At the Marin, CA, Concours in May I was left with little excitement for the California.

It just is not exciting to me.

As to the 599, see this month's issue of Forza at what Novitec has done to this car.

You might change your mind about the 599.
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Unfortunately I have to agree about the California. I have seen it three times now in person and it doesnt have that Ferrari wow factor. It's an impressive car for a different side of the Ferrari market but it doesn't make me want to turn my head 360' to look at it as one drives past as do other Ferrari models may they be old or new. The first 6 units of the California to come into South Africa arrived about a month ago and just yesterday I saw one up for sale and not at a Ferrari dealership but an exotic car dealership that deals with all brands. So here you had this new (now 2nd hand) California sitting on the showroom floor amongst Mercs and BMW's besides the odd Lambo and Porsche on the other side of the showroom.

As for the 458, there is no doubt that it looks absolutely fantastic. Cant wait to see one in person

Chaz, do you have a F430 now?

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No Mike i dont own a F430. The car belongs to the estate i work for. I drive various Ferraris about the place, perks of the job. I am about the only one who exercises them.
I drive the 2008 F430 spider, 2008 599, 2002 360 spider, and the Bentley GT Convertible. Oh as well as the Range Rover.
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Sounds like it's getting rough there, Chaz!!!
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Chaz:

I came to a similar conclusion about the Cali a few weeks ago, although the principal issue was the rather incredible rate of depreciation that the new California’s appear to be suffering. I ended up with an F430B - and could not be happier!

While I was excited about being on the list for my first brand-new Ferrari, in the end, the car did not have the ‘it’ factor. Je ne sais quoi, if you will. And, like you said, I remember seeing a Testarossa for the first time cresting the hill, coming at me. One big mirror. I will never forget it. The Cali will never have that impact upon the cognoscenti.

Appreciate your first-hand comments...

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I feel the same way about the Cali....my wife likes cars and when she saw my uncles Testarossa and F430 she said nice looking cars but when she saw the Cali at Italian week when I posted pictures she went crazy saying OMG thats a hot car which led me to believe that maybe its a womans car?


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I feel the same way about the Cali....my wife likes cars and when she saw my uncles Testarossa and F430 she said nice looking cars but when she saw the Cali at Italian week when I posted pictures she went crazy saying OMG thats a hot car which led me to believe that maybe its a womans car?


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Not even sure it's a 'woman's car' - and trying not to be derogatory, as I am outnumbered 3:1 at home. The more I see it, the more design issues/flaws (IMHO) I find. The fake exhaust pipes are just sad...
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Formula for exotic has been simple since the time of the Miura Lambo

Low, sleek and Uber wide

Seems simple enough to me, you can spot a Countach, Diablo, Gallardo, Murci, Testa R, 348/355, Enzo, McLaren F1, Jag xj 220, Lotus Esprit (and many more I can't think of) from miles away coming at you or moving away , you know it's something out of the ordinary and out of this world.

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Formula for exotic has been simple since the time of the Miura Lambo

Low, sleek and Uber wide

Seems simple enough to me, you can spot a Countach, Diablo, Gallardo, Murci, Testa R, 348/355, Enzo, McLaren F1, Jag xj 220, Lotus Esprit (and many more I can't think of) from miles away coming at you or moving away , you know it's something out of the ordinary and out of this world.
Uber wide, indeed. And uber low.
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I bet the California looks so much sexier when driven by a blonde with the top down.

I even took a blonde friend of mine to the showroom to see the Californias. She oohed and aahed, and wanted to know if the name meant it was made in California--a good thing in her opinion!

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I bet the California looks so much sexier when driven by a blonde with the top down.

I even took a blonde friend of mine to the showroom to see the Californias. She oohed and aahed, and wanted to know if the name meant it was made in California--a good thing in her opinion!
I hope you told her 'yes'...
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I am sure he did not fearing she would want to come visit me!!!
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I bet the California looks so much sexier when driven by a blonde with the top down.

I even took a blonde friend of mine to the showroom to see the Californias. She oohed and aahed, and wanted to know if the name meant it was made in California--a good thing in her opinion!

I would have said "NO, it's named after the King of California, Mr. Ferrari...and, that's me"

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I would have said "NO, it's named after the King of California, Mr. Ferrari...and, that's me"

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It's good to be King...
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Those are very funny comments!

But what we were wondering was why Ferrari would name a car after such a small state.
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They probably knew a Great Britain would definitely not sell!
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Not even sure it's a 'woman's car' - and trying not to be derogatory, as I am outnumbered 3:1 at home. The more I see it, the more design issues/flaws (IMHO) I find. The fake exhaust pipes are just sad...
My wife and daughter see my uncles F430 quite often and I brought her to Ferrari week here (posted a bunch load of pics and there was a Cali) When my daughter saw it she said, I like that car... its my favorite....later in the day my wife joined us and her jaw dropped on the floor and went nuts when he started it....reved it and closed the top....she said and I quote....hottest Ferrari ever....all models were there besides an F40/F50/Enzo and I said what about the others....she said....they have nothing on this one.....she said the curves were amazing and if she were to buy one it would be the only one period.

I'm not being derogatory, just quoting what the wife said, my wife has been around Ferrari's for over 10 years and absolutely loves them but this one....gave her the passion I feel when I see other models...

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I'm not being derogatory, just quoting what the wife said, my wife has been around Ferrari's for over 10 years and absolutely loves them but this one....gave her the passion I feel when I see other models...

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Hmmm it's been said time and again "women, can't live with them ............................pass me a beer") not sure why the opposite sex likes the Cali but one thing is for sure Ferrari's marketing people did their homework it's a chic's car alright

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