Join Date: Jan 2007
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PPI and West Coast : BUMP
I know Brian Crall lately will NOT do any more PPI's off the street, and I not only respect him but totally understand the motivations.
Don't know how FerrariQuest's deal went down, perhaps I can jiggle BC's memory, but highly doubt it since so much time has been spent.
So, here are some issues, on the West Coast Bay Area for PPI that one might consider in today's climate:
1. Most private or indi shops will NOT want to get involved anymore
.a No money in it: They amount they charge, time from other jobs etc. can be better earned/spent doing real work for customers needing their cars, like, NOW. Work is abundant, and good mechs are scarce = $$$ vs TIME.
.b The contracting party typically has 'complaints' somewhere in the PPI stating that perhaps the inspector 'missed' or 'qualified' something only to find the inspector DIDN'T qualify or miss much. Lots of liability for a small shop, in there and why the heartache?
2. Put the results in writing is what is typically needed, but from a 'walkin' it's lawsuit waiting to happen: Why bother.
3. Dealers, might do, but typically will NOT do except for the owner. The owner typically must do the contracting for PPI service. Agian, there are 'issues' where a dealership may do such. I know, when Ferrari of San Francisco was owned by Ferrai they 'might' perform [special] but honestly would even turn down 'valued customers' they knew.
IF the OWNER will allow the inspection, it will be put in writing and should be allowed from owner to the requestor's EYES ONLY. That is, if I were paying for it, I would retain it and no one else has rights to it.
There can be that endless cycle of many PPIs which typically means the initiated owner will NOT do them even on request, but will allow the potential buyer to expend on their own, and via an inspector of the potential's own choosing: Why would anyone want to trust seller's inspector or even thwart a buyer's choice.
All this can and should be debated
4. Do NOT, expect it to be a warranty, that there are NOT other issues, or that what was inspected will NOT go 'south' in < 5 miles out the door.
A good mech/inspector who would know the car in question should be able to shake the loose basic nuts out of the cage, but doesn't mean every one was found. IT is a 'here are the major and minor [perhaps] issues that can be readily ascertained, and what it might cost you, via me the inspector if in the biz, to make it right OR what 'might' happen should you let it go.
The PPI is a good negotiation tool and truthfully 'sometimes is full of it too'.
So, why the bother: agian, the last two paragragraphs spell out the major.
Known quantities, what to expect, perhaps, and what this means in terms of total value today.
We are talking non-vintaged, very expensive items here, where solid inspectors who absolutely know the vehicle in question in terms of correctness, must be hired to help the large purchase: BTW, big purchasers in the six-seven+ figures can be fooled or led wrong.
Perhaps a entire thread devoted to PPI as a wiki [I'll keep pushing this feature] would be best, as this subject comes up a lot and I never seem to exactly regurgitate the editorial prose like some things.
Besides, many other, better qualified owners here have posted better comments.
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