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post #1 of 32 Old 03-08-2009, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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Since I live in California, my car registration will be doubling May 19, 2009. I wish to thank all those Democrats and Republicans for this new tax. I especially want to thank our Governor for caving in on his campaign promise of not raising taxes, especially for cars.

By the way, my registration is due May 22, 2009, four days too late.

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ps: this is to be read only by Southern Californians since those in the Bay Area think the car tax in still not high enough.


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Since I live in California, my car registration will be doubling May 19, 2009. I wish to thank all those Democrats and Republicans for this new tax. I especially want to thank our Governor for caving in on his campaign promise of not raising taxes, especially for cars.

By the way, my registration is due May 22, 2009, four days too late.

Nuts.

ps: this is to be read only by Southern Californians since those in the Bay Area think the car tax in still not high enough.

I remember when I lived in Marina del Rey in Southern California back in 1989, the state was charging some ridiculous figure for registration, like 2% of the value of the car. Is that still true? In Illinois it only costs $75 for any car. Whether it is a jalopy or a Ferrari Enzo, it is an annual flat cost of $75.00. How much is it in California, if you do not mind me asking?
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mY 1997 550 was $975 last year. It will be about $1800 this year. It does go down as the value per the state goes down.






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mY 1997 550 was $975 last year. It will be about $1800 this year. It does go down as the value per the state goes down.





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They are SOOOOOOO WROOOONNNNNNGGGGG!!!!!!! That is not right. Your registration costs more than my insurance per car. I own over 20 exotics and 30 plus cars if you count my daily drivers, MB, etc. That means I would pay $60,000.00 in annual vehicle registration dues? Most of my cars are north of $150K plus so that means it might be more. Is there a maximum the state will cap per individual or household? What if you are a collector like Jay Leno? Something is not right. Why don`t you get an address across a bordering state legally. Buy a $50K condo. No wonder why California is losing hard working successful people and are stuck with the illegal Mexicans crossing the border. I really feel bad for you, Bart. If I were the judge, I would ban the law and have the state just charge a flat $75 fee like Illinois. Besides our governors and politicians going to jail constantly, I should feel grateful about having my main residence in Illinois since I love to collect cars.
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Wow, that is soooo much for registration...

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Just payed mine on both cars. Not exotics but every day drivers. I think they were $65 a piece. Got to love Texas for that! I remember going to the DMV in Cali for anything and waiting there forever. I hated that place.

Here, there are not many lines at the Registration office or licensing office. Definately more laid back and they don't send you away for all of the little things that Cali DMV does. You missed this....you need this...bring in this....make an appointment......come back......
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Wow, that is soooo much for registration...
Its a sin!!! California is not for me. I would lose sleep every night if I had to pay that kind of money for registration. The state`s tax rate is the highest in the nation and everything is so expensive there. The kicker is that the state is on the verge of bankruptcy. They are still broke with all of the money they are collecting from tax payers.
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Since I live in California, my car registration will be doubling May 19, 2009. I wish to thank all those Democrats and Republicans for this new tax. I especially want to thank our Governor for caving in on his campaign promise of not raising taxes, especially for cars.

By the way, my registration is due May 22, 2009, four days too late.

Nuts.

ps: this is to be read only by Southern Californians since those in the Bay Area think the car tax in still not high enough.

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Honestly, I don't know how else to fix it all. I DO know I'm getting tired of smaking my cars on I-80 where there are actually 2-3 INCH ruts in a cement national HW !!!! If the money goes to fix that stuff, then great.

if it goes to someone's wet dream of a project, then not so

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Read My Lips should have been your first clue.

Honestly, I don't know how else to fix it all. I DO know I'm getting tired of smaking my cars on I-80 where there are actually 2-3 INCH ruts in a cement national HW !!!! If the money goes to fix that stuff, then great.

if it goes to someone's wet dream of a project, then not so
If the feds want to run a socialistic society like the Obama administration is definitely gears towards, then they should set a cap on auto license annual registration fees. There is no reason why one state like Illinois and Wisconsin is $75 a year in registration costs and another state like California is $2,000.00.
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Bart, maybe it is time to move away from California ? Jimmy
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Bart, maybe it is time to move away from California ? Jimmy
The registration on my 308 in Maine is $90 and that includes the custom "FERRARI" licence plate.

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So you mean to tell me that Jay Leno is paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual registration fees? There has to be a loophole on exotics and/or classic/antique/collector vehicles. Maybe it is just your daily drivers.
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So you mean to tell me that Jay Leno is paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual registration fees? There has to be a loophole on exotics and/or classic/antique/collector vehicles. Maybe it is just your daily drivers.
I don't think it would matter much to him. I read somewhere that his income from the Tonight Show last this past year was $25,000,000.

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The registration on my 308 in Maine is $90 and that includes the custom "FERRARI" licence plate.
Maybe I should move to Maine. w/ smiles Jimmy
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I don't know why you are complaining, I paid the equivalent to US$ 300 for my bike's registration this year, and that's because it was registered in the cheapest state of Brazil (in other states it would cost as much as US$ 500)

a Ferrari F430 here pays around US$ 25K a year for registration, a 550 Maranello like Bart's wouldn't pay less than US$ 10K

AND we don't even have good roads to enjoy our toys

so WHY are you complaining???????????

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Americans complain because we are spoiled. We are very fortunate. Some of us realize this, some don't, and the majority of us realize it but get used to it after a while and forget how lucky we are.


Me -- I'm very lucky -- Each car costs around $65 USD per year to register, regardless of value. Additional $35 per year for personalized plate number. For historical vehicles (25 years or older, used only for shows and events), we pay a one-time fee of only $28 for the life of the car. If we want to personalize the historical registration, we pay only the $35 per year.

I've lived in California and Florida and spent enough time in a few other states to get a taste of what life is like there, and to be honest, I prefer it in Ohio. If you can put up with snow in the winter here, everything else is pretty good, and life is comparatively easy. I keep reading newspaper articles about people leaving this region of the country to move to the "sun belt" (southeast and southwest states), and I read that cities like Cleveland are not desirable places to live, but the truth is, Cleveland, Toledo, and Cincinnati are great and interesting places to live. When I read about taxes, auto registration fees, insurance rates, corruption, natural disasters, political issues, crime, etc., in some of the more "desirable" states, I thank God I live here.

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Jimmy,

How much is it in Japan?
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I don't think it would matter much to him. I read somewhere that his income from the Tonight Show last this past year was $25,000,000.
I made almost that some years and lost more than that last year but that is not the point. It is a matter of principle and you need to realize that people who disregard the value of money and blow it like there is no tomorrow, they are complete morons. I rather help the disadvantage (not welfare) but help people like elders who were victims of crimes, third world country people who are starving, etc.
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How much is it in Japan?
Hello Gustan: Well, frankly...there's so many kind of taxes that I am not totally sure. One annual tax is called "weight tax" and is based on the engine's capacity. Suffice to say, larger capacity gets hit for close to US$1,000. Then there's biannual registration etc. taxes which is similar to the MOT in England, I believe,...this varies but in the neighborhood of US$ 2,000. I gave up keeping track. w/ smiles Jimmy
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I don't know why you are complaining, I paid the equivalent to US$ 300 for my bike's registration this year, and that's because it was registered in the cheapest state of Brazil (in other states it would cost as much as US$ 500)

a Ferrari F430 here pays around US$ 25K a year for registration, a 550 Maranello like Bart's wouldn't pay less than US$ 10K

AND we don't even have good roads to enjoy our toys

so WHY are you complaining???????????
What is the average income for exotic car owners and what is the average income for an average middle class family? Complain? I just do not think it is fair for one resident of one state to be paying 30 times more than a resident of a neighboring state. There are a lot of people who look for loopholes and they will go across state lines to register their vehicles in order to save money. Everybody does not play by the rules and it is due to the fact that states get greedy and honest people like Bart and other tax paying California residents get shortchanged. I know of at least a dozen people who are exotic car owners who register their cars in states like Oregon, and Wyoming. More than two dozens.
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