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McLarry Owners, Please Sum Up Your Views!

I am very curious to hear a sum up of your ownership experiences. It's interesting as you are also Ferrari owners.

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Well, dealership here in germany is still not very good and because of breaking down three times the last 6000km/8 month, I give it to my Ferrari - Dealer and have ordered my 458 SP, coming 12/2014.
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Have you driven one yet, Capo? I drove the 650S and the 12C and found them handling very well, and very fast once the revs go above 5500. Otherwise I found them sounding like vacuum cleaners, not pretty enough, having uncomfortable seats.

Great cars but not for me.


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Have you driven one yet, Capo? I drove the 650S and the 12C and found them handling very well, and very fast once the revs go above 5500. Otherwise I found them sounding like vacuum cleaners, not pretty enough, having uncomfortable seats.

Great cars but not for me.


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Nope, haven't driven one. I'm curious about the advanced suspension. It's a pitty they chose a 90 degree crank. Flat crank sounds more exotic. Even Porsche has turned to flat crank in their new 918.

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Well, dealership here in germany is still not very good and because of breaking down three times the last 6000km/8 month, I give it to my Ferrari - Dealer and have ordered my 458 SP, coming 12/2014.
Sorry to hear about your breakdowns. With the Speciale I believe you will get one of the best sports cars currently available. That would be the only new Ferrari I would consider.

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Onno, did you notice any turbo lag?

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Onno, did you notice any turbo lag?
I owned an MP4.

Vertigo fast - no joke.

Air brake Turbo Fit n Finish Brake steer handling CF tub - a solid 9.8 Zero turbo lag!

The wife's favorite car - it was comfortable and somewhat quiet.

From the outside the MP4 with sport exhaust - good as Ferrari different but very mean growl difference is the car is well built so good you can't hear it very well in a coupe.

Inside - it's tight at 6'2 210 I should have gone with non electric seats lowering me 1-2 inches. The new 650S sport seats like my 16M would have been perfect.

Never had any issues other than people taking pictures and staring when the doors went up.

When the 650 was introduced and the MP4 dropped it cost me a pretty penny but when I called the dealer to upgrade they didn't nor did any other dealer want my MP4.

Ended up wholesaling it and buying a CGT that has increased 75k so I did fine and could not be happier with the outcome.

Do not let anyone kid you especially for the money - MP4 is the fastest best handling wonderfully built car as Mclaren continually upgrades the car for free that is anything short of spectacular and I will buy a 650S down the road.
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Have had 3 now (one in the UK, one in Germany, and one in the US). 2 Spiders and 1 Coupe. All have been great. Handling is excellent and they will out run just bout everything.
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Have had 3 now (one in the UK, one in Germany, and one in the US). 2 Spiders and 1 Coupe. All have been great. Handling is excellent and they will out run just bout everything.
Wow!

I suppose it's a great car for sporty driving (obviously), but also comfortable for long journeys.

In the sportiest setting, does it equal a Speciale in steering feel, responsiveness and agility?

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I owned an MP4.

Vertigo fast - no joke.

Air brake Turbo Fit n Finish Brake steer handling CF tub - a solid 9.8 Zero turbo lag!

The wife's favorite car - it was comfortable and somewhat quiet.

From the outside the MP4 with sport exhaust - good as Ferrari different but very mean growl difference is the car is well built so good you can't hear it very well in a coupe.

Inside - it's tight at 6'2 210 I should have gone with non electric seats lowering me 1-2 inches. The new 650S sport seats like my 16M would have been perfect.

Never had any issues other than people taking pictures and staring when the doors went up.

When the 650 was introduced and the MP4 dropped it cost me a pretty penny but when I called the dealer to upgrade they didn't nor did any other dealer want my MP4.

Ended up wholesaling it and buying a CGT that has increased 75k so I did fine and could not be happier with the outcome.

Do not let anyone kid you especially for the money - MP4 is the fastest best handling wonderfully built car as Mclaren continually upgrades the car for free that is anything short of spectacular and I will buy a 650S down the road.
Great description, thanks!

So, a used MP4 should be a great buy at a very, very negotiable price, considering the entry of the new 650S?

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Onno, did you notice any turbo lag?
There is no lag, in the sense that you have to wait for the turbo's to spool up. But there is a huge gap in power between no turbo's active (sub 5500 rpm), and with turbo's active. To me that is not as attractive as the constant power delivery that the 458 has all through the rev range. I perfectly understand that other people might prefer the McLaren's delivery. It's just a matter of taste.

The suspension was fantastic, at least what I could test on very smooth Dutch roads.

The 12C is fair money, but I find the 650S a bit overpriced (at least in my market, not sure if that would be different somewhere else).


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Great description, thanks!

So, a used MP4 should be a great buy at a very, very negotiable price, considering the entry of the new 650S?
Yes!

Few things - make sure it has the 2 year service about 3000.00 along with all the updates.

If you are concerned about warranty after the factory runs out when I sold mine you had to buy an MP4 thru a dealer in order to get the extended warranty around 3500.00 per year. I was told Mclaren was working on a warranty program for customer cars.

A CF tub active air brake and brake steer it's a lot of machine if you want to get serious the settings change the cars personality from soft to hard core.

The 650 isn't that much better - wait for them to drop.

The MP4 has launch control that does zero damage - get used to seeing your buddies in the rear view mirror. Nothing on the road I ever encountered was faster.

Sport exhaust and Ceramics are nice additions but not 100% necessary. Steel has better feel but the ceramics were intended for serious driving.

Mclaren Life forum has a lot of good people - might want to search the forum for sellers and advice.
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Wow!

I suppose it's a great car for sporty driving (obviously), but also comfortable for long journeys.

In the sportiest setting, does it equal a Speciale in steering feel, responsiveness and agility?
As a car to live with, I would rate it ahead of the Speciale. In terms of agility and being able to place it on the road, about equal. For outright fun, buy a Scud.
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As a car to live with, I would rate it ahead of the Speciale. In terms of agility and being able to place it on the road, about equal. For outright fun, buy a Scud.
Excellent and valuable advice, thanks!

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There is no lag, in the sense that you have to wait for the turbo's to spool up. But there is a huge gap in power between no turbo's active (sub 5500 rpm), and with turbo's active. To me that is not as attractive as the constant power delivery that the 458 has all through the rev range. I perfectly understand that other people might prefer the McLaren's delivery. It's just a matter of taste.

The suspension was fantastic, at least what I could test on very smooth Dutch roads.

The 12C is fair money, but I find the 650S a bit overpriced (at least in my market, not sure if that would be different somewhere else).


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Thanks, Onno! It seems I need to try one to see how I get along with it.

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Yes!

Few things - make sure it has the 2 year service about 3000.00 along with all the updates.

If you are concerned about warranty after the factory runs out when I sold mine you had to buy an MP4 thru a dealer in order to get the extended warranty around 3500.00 per year. I was told Mclaren was working on a warranty program for customer cars.

A CF tub active air brake and brake steer it's a lot of machine if you want to get serious the settings change the cars personality from soft to hard core.

The 650 isn't that much better - wait for them to drop.

The MP4 has launch control that does zero damage - get used to seeing your buddies in the rear view mirror. Nothing on the road I ever encountered was faster.

Sport exhaust and Ceramics are nice additions but not 100% necessary. Steel has better feel but the ceramics were intended for serious driving.

Mclaren Life forum has a lot of good people - might want to search the forum for sellers and advice.
I'll try an upgraded MP4-C12 at a convenient opportunity. Boxer having bought three Larries means it must be an interesting car.

I guess a good strategy would be to wait two more years and buy a C12 and Scud!?

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As a car to live with, I would rate it ahead of the Speciale. In terms of agility and being able to place it on the road, about equal. For outright fun, buy a Scud.
Ok Johan, you hear that....GET A SCUD !!!

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As a car to live with, I would rate it ahead of the Speciale. In terms of agility and being able to place it on the road, about equal. For outright fun, buy a Scud.
I agree with you - a Scud let me add 16M
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Ok Johan, you hear that....GET A SCUD !!!
Should have could have Scud have...

I'll trade it for my 612 - anybody?!

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