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post #1 of 21 Old 04-14-2014, 02:44 AM Thread Starter
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Audrey Hepburn on wheels

My favourite restorer has been working on a 507 for the past two years. Car is almost ready to go back to the owner. What a beauty. I love that the original colour combination is back - Stahlgrau (steel grey but quite blue) with a bordeaux red interior and that cream wheel - it is just sooo '50ies.

These are going for 1.5 million Euros these days...


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Gorgeous! I believe that John Surtees still has his 507 owned since new with some useful mods in period done to it. For years the 507 seemed to be forgotten and only fairly recently has it caught up to the 300SL in market value. This one looks stunning, could picture Audrey Hepburn cruising around in this, so chic!

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saw a similar one at amelia island last month that sold for 2.4m US. Was owned by a famous collector I knew from the east coast that recently died. Pray bought it from the original owner in 1972. Only 2 owners since new. Of course, it was in top condition. It really was a stunning car and one of the stars of the auction.

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the 507 may be a wonderful car to drive. As I never have driven one, I wouldn't know. but aesthetically it does nothing for me at all. Never has done. I can't see what all the fuss is about. I know that leaves me in a minority of one, but there we are - I'll take the 300SL, please

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Can't follow the logic, John. For me the 300SL roadster and the 507 were designed using very similar design rules. They're different but not that different.


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Love the 507, even though I am not a BMW fan. The only two BMWs I have ever admired were the 507 and the M1, maybe the original 328.

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Can't follow the logic, John. For me the 300SL roadster and the 507 were designed using very similar design rules. They're different but not that different.


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For me it's the high front end on the 507 vs the much lower one on the 300sl. The rest of the 507 is quite nice but the front is a deal breaker.
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For me it's the high front end on the 507 vs the much lower one on the 300sl. The rest of the 507 is quite nice but the front is a deal breaker.
interesting. For me, it is the opposite; I like the 507 better than the 300SL.

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For me it's the high front end on the 507 vs the much lower one on the 300sl. The rest of the 507 is quite nice but the front is a deal breaker.
OK, cool. I'm with Brian, I really like the look of the nose.


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Can't follow the logic, John. For me the 300SL roadster and the 507 were designed using very similar design rules. They're different but not that different.
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I am not sure that logic necessarily plays a part, Onno: maybe it's just a personal thing, or, to use a well-worn phrase, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder": one I like, the other I don't.

However, trying to inject some logic into the process, I acknowledge that if one thing appeals to a particular beholder, then something designed along similar lines should do so, too. So perhaps what I am saying is that, using the same design rules, Uhlenhaut succeeded, but Goertz failed.

Having said that, Sayer did a better job than either of them and an E-type would be my choice over a 507 or a 300SL (allegedly a view shared by Enzo Ferrari).

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from the right angle, the front fender line of the 507 is Lusso-esque.

Like a lot of German cars, wasn't the beef w/ the 507 that it was under-powered for its weight? I think I read somewhere that Surtees hot-rodded his motor practically the day he got it.

Elvis owned one as well.

For the mid-atlantic guys, didn't we see one at Geoffrey Griffith's shop in the same building as Garre's place during one of the Garre/Yang parties? It was undergoing a complete resto.
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...Like a lot of German cars, wasn't the beef w/ the 507 that it was under-powered for its weight?...
The main beef was pricing: an $8,500 car in a $3,000 world. It did not sell well.

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For its day, the 507 was very quick, with only the 300 SL, Jag XKs, and Corvettes as quick. Plus the very rare Ferraris and Maseratis.

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Brian- The 328 was a prewar design that was very successfully raced.
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Brian- The 328 was a prewar design that was very successfully raced.
Ha! Caught my own mistake and deleted my comment just as you posted the correction. Duh. Yeah. Thanks for the clarification.

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Having said that, Sayer did a better job than either of them and an E-type would be my choice over a 507 or a 300SL (allegedly a view shared by Enzo Ferrari).
I agree with that. That move also saves you quite a bit of money, John.


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Not for me. Would much rather have a 300 SL or BMW 507.

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the 507 may be a wonderful car to drive. As I never have driven one, I wouldn't know. but aesthetically it does nothing for me at all. Never has done. I can't see what all the fuss is about. I know that leaves me in a minority of one, but there we are - I'll take the 300SL, please
+1. I am with John here. Based solely on the furnished photos, the lines, the balance ...

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I agree with that. That move also saves you quite a bit of money, John.
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Yes, the price differential is just staggering. And my preference was expressed purely on aesthetics, not value for money. What makes a 300SL or a 507 worth 10+ times as much as an E-type? Having never even driven the other two, I cannot comment on any other aspects of ownership, but I would be surprised if they were that much better than an E. Rarity? Build quality?

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