Originally Posted by Dr. Bob
The fact Saddam was sitting there was because America let him.
I guess no matter what the U.S. does you'll disagree with them. So I guess the U.S. should just pull all their military from around the world back home and let the wars happen. No more peace missions, no more foreign aid, nothing, just be selfish.
Actually Saddam killed the leader of Iraq to gain power and the U.S. had nothing to do with that. Yes the U.S. helped him against Iran, but they also helped Iran at the same time.
The whole war against terrorism started against Bin Laden, against the Taliban in Afganistan. The Taliban is still in Afganistan, and people did not really benefit of that war.
Well I happen do know two people that have been there. One to fly planes the other as an aid worker for a major NGO. According to her (and she has been there over 30 times) it is better. AND SHE IS NOT AMERICAN! Furthermore, 10,000,000+ people registerd to vote. Yeah, they don't want to be free...NOT. Oh and lets see, WOMEN CAN NOW GO TO SCHOOL!!!! (not under the Taliban...it was forbidden) HOLY SHIT THAT IS SO BAD WTF IS THE U.S. DOING ALLOWING WOMEN TO GO TO SCHOOL, KILL AMERICA, SO EVIL FOR ALLOWING WOMEN TO BE EDUCATED. A company here in Emeryville (Leapfrog) recently sent 1,000s of their books for Afghan women to learn about raising children, health and other things: http://www.leapfrog.com/do/findpage?pageKey=press
OH how terrible AGAIN. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. What an awful nation to have the guts to do this. We should all boycott Leap Frog for this atrocity.
And first, the war started to remove the weapons of mass destruction, not to remove Saddam. What happens is that now the whole campain is turned around and now it is about the peace in Iraq. You started a war because of your own safety, not of the Iraque people.
Did you hear George Bush's speach prior to invading Iraq that was given in the Oval Office? Probably not, you are just spouting what you've read in the newspaper. I happened to hear the whole thing. And at one point he did say we (referring to the United States and 42 other nations help) are coming to free you (referring to the Iraqis). I guess you missed this?
..."Many Iraqis can hear me tonight in a translated radio broadcast, and I have a message for them. If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. As our coalition takes away their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need. We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free. In a free Iraq, there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near....."
Sounds like he wanted to go for OTHER REASON TOO. WOW, NO SPIN THERE. YES WMD WAS A MAJOR REASON, BUT NOT...BUT NOT THE ONLY REASON Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0030317-7.html
They are not helping them, I agree, but still, you guys started a war. You guys started a WAR! And then you complain that you have enemies? I can't even call that naieve (sp), I call that just plain stupid.
Well I'm glad you agree terrorist from other nations are not helping. I'm not saying, "oh my god we have enemies now?" What I'm saying is, "WAKE UP WORLD AND HELP" Why? Because what happens in Iraq effects US ALL. And a safe and stable Iraq is good for the world, EVEN THE PEOPLE IN EUROPE.
Originally Posted by Basosz
That wasn't what Kerry was talking about. He was talking about the fact that Bush misled the American people. Talk about evading questions...
It is an election year. Both parties are going to throw mud, you should know that. The truth lies somewhere in the middle, you should be smart enough to know that. I would be willing to bet that many in the Dutch government in charge of intel thought Sadam had weapons. Bush had never been to Iraq to view the weapons, doesn't anyone realize he [the president] is often just a puppet for TV? DO YOU REALLY THINK BALKENENDE, ZALM or DE GRAAF had or have time to analize 10,000s of documents that the Dutch government has about XYZ? Probably not. I'm guessing someone else [100s of people] does, then writes a report, then they (Dutch leaders) read it and make a decision.
I think we should all agree on this. None of us have been to Iraq and therefore CANNOT make a totally sound assessment of the situation in Iraq. We are getting it via a biased media (which ever that maybe).