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Speed difference between GT cars and F1

fascinating. I guess everyone recognizes the venue?

Speed Comparison: GT vs. F1 racing cars. [VIDEO]



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fascinating. I guess everyone recognizes the venue?

Speed Comparison: GT vs. F1 racing cars. [VIDEO]
Impressive!

That was Spa wasn't it?

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Impressive!

That was Spa wasn't it?
Correct. Going towards and through Eau Rouge. Magical series of corners!
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Note the completely different line taken by those who really know what they are doing, too. The GT drivers hug the right side on the entrance, making for a much bigger change in direction. The F1 cars are right down the center of the entrance, making for a much straighter passage through the corner. Helped by the fact they have a bit more grip, too. I understand that corner is taken nearly flat in an F1 car.

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Thanks wepet! amazing..
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Impressive!

That was Spa wasn't it?
Indeed, and I have driven that exact piece of pavement in a rented Taurus Wagon. You have to do what you have to do.

Not sure I would qualify the cars on the left as "real" GT cars...it would be fun to see a comparison between ALMS cars and the F1 cars going through there...
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Note the completely different line taken by those who really know what they are doing, too. The GT drivers hug the right side on the entrance, making for a much bigger change in direction. The F1 cars are right down the center of the entrance, making for a much straighter passage through the corner. Helped by the fact they have a bit more grip, too. I understand that corner is taken nearly flat in an F1 car.
You are correct that most people stay too far right for too long, Terry. But there is also a different line because of the mechanical grip differences. Because you don't have the grip in a regular car, you can't take the same line as an F1 car. The straight leading up to Eau Rouge is downhill and fairly long. In the 458 I hit almost 220 km/h going into Eau Rouge. I stay out a bit further to the right than the F1's initially. This allows me to steer left first and then brake in a straight line going into the corner. I almost clip the rumble strip on the left as I brake fairly hard and lift. I then roll up the hill at about 160km/h clipping the right apex of Eau Rouge. The biggest mistake most people make is staying outside after that point. You can NOT see the apex of Raidillon, it is over the crest of the hill. However, you still have to trust it is there and just nail it. I usually gain about 15 - 20km/h on people ahead of me there. Also - if you stay outside, you run a real risk of not making Raidillon (as Alonso did in the last GP). The armco is fairly close there, you do NOT want to go off there!!

Still, it is a very difficult section and I don't think I've gotten it the same way twice so far. The balance between throttle, brake, changing camber of track, downslope, upslope, it all combines to something that is very difficult to get right. Mind you, I don't have that much experience, just 3 trackdays there so far. And I didn't change my tyre pressures, bad mistake.

Very exciting track, and your heart beats a little faster when you approach Eau Rouge, no doubt about it!!

BTW - the very first time I was at Spa was for F1 practice in 1997. We had just gotten our tickets and were making our way through the trees, when we stumbled onto Eau Rouge. The first thing I saw was an F1 car going up that hill. I will never forget that, you can't believe how steep it is and how fast that thing flies up there. And the sound!!

BTW2 - this also shows how different F1 Ferrari clients drive the cars of their heroes. The way they went up the hill during the Modena Motorsport trackdays last July was rather pedestrian.... They took about 40s a lap longer than the big boys. Mind you - the G forces are severe in that section and you probably need proper training to do even 1 lap at a good pace.


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Wow, Onno!

You know your stuff. Very interesting to follow your talking that Spa section through with all it's technicalities and thrills. I felt my pulse rise reading it... - Is that normal?

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Onno- That is one of the most famous and fun corners in all of F1. Lucky you have been able to drive your 458 at Spa and see what it is like for real. Most of us will never have that chance.

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