Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA & Singapore
Ferrari Life Posts: 5,509
I have never ridden in a Hummer so I only have opinions from observing them. They are huge! I can't imagine taking one of those off-road in Maine. We did have a Hummer club that wanted to join us for a ride on our trails and we had to turn them down. The Hummers just plain won't fit on the trails we ride on. The longer wheel base would be a detriment also because it would be easier to get "High Centered". (you get the front tires on one side of the bump, the rear tires on the other side and the skid plate on the top of the bump with the full weight of the vehicle resting on it. With a shorter wheelbase you have a steeper "breakover angle" The Jeep can drive over something the Hummer would straddle and get hung up on). On our trails, we'd be winching Hummers out all day long.
Bob mentioned greater traction; traction is dependent on the surface the tires are on. The Hummer is heavier and has more horsepower than the Jeep so it would have more traction on pavement. In mud, the heavier Hummer will sink further down and what was good traction on the road now helps the tires dig bigger holes. The lighter Jeeps and Rovers will not sink as far so they just need horsepower to keep the tire treads clear, they don't need to drag the body through the mud also.
The Hummers do not have as much suspension travel as the Jeep (I don't know about the Rover) with the Jeep you can put one front tire on a large rock or log and have the other 3 tires still on the ground. With the Hummer, if you were to put one front tire on a large rock or log the suspension is so stiff that the rear tire on the same side would lift off the ground. The Hummer now has 3 tires contacting where the Jeep has 4. Hmmm, Jeep has more traction in this scenario.
There is no "Perfect" 4x4. Different terrain has different needs. I think the wheelbase and suspension of the Hummer would offer the vehicle greater stability at high speeds in a open desert or plains area. In the woods or on the rocks, a smaller, lighter, more manueverable vehicle would be called for. In our club, we never achieve anything close to what would be considered "high speeds". On most of our trails, 15 mph is too fast.
But I believe that more than 75% of all 4X4's purchased never leave the pavement anyway. On the highway, I bet the Hummer is awesome. In the city, the Jeep is quicker, easier to maneuver, has more visibility and is easier to find a parking spot for. The Jeep gets better gas mileage also.
Oh yeah, the Jeep also offers top-down, open-air driving.
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