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post #1 of 20 Old 01-28-2013, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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Craftsman or kolbalt?

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Snap-On or Mac. I use Snap-On when I can afford them, but do have some Craftsman tools, too. Quality was much higher on Craftsman in the olden days.

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Snap-On or Mac. I use Snap-On when I can afford them, but do have some Craftsman tools, too. Quality was much higher on Craftsman in the olden days.
EVERYTHING was better quality in the olden days.....
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I have to admit the quality on the Craftsman tools has really gone down in the last three years. I don't know anything about Kobalt? Funny thing is it seems the quality on the Harbor Freight tools has gone up. I have a lot of Craftsman tools but there have been a couple items I only buy one of the high end. Torx bits, ratchets, snap ring tools.

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Kevin- Kobalt is sold by Lowes, I believe. Tools appear to be pretty nice.

The Craftsman descent in quality has been going on for a long time. They had a set of basic tools on sale one year maybe eight years back that I wanted to put into a car. Let my wife pick them up and wrap them for Christmas. Was appalled when I inspected them. Nothing like the quality of tools I bought 20-40 years ago.

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Craftsman is the private label that Sears uses to brand various products they sell. Craftsman tools were decent tools for the non professional at a reasonable price, with a life time warranty.

Kobalt is the private label for Lowes Corp line of tools they sell.

Private labeling allows good tool manufacturers to sell product at better price points than their branded products. It also allows the reseller to change manufacturers of their tools to meet their requirement of quality and price. The same tool bought years ago may not be by the same manufacturer of the tool on the shelf today. In recent history ( China ) the tool market has become very competitive, bringing down the prices. There is no substitue for quality tools, but at current price levels resonably good tools have never been cheaper. We use a lot tools in the marine enviornment ( race team ) which is very corrosive, it's hard to keep tools rust free. Reasonable quality tools can be disposable after a year or two. There also is cheap junk quality tools, best to avoid those. Depending on ones needs there is a large choice of brands, with or without warranty, or service at reasonable prices. In much the same way, Ferrari private labels parts manufactured to their specifications.

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I use Mastercraft (Canadian Tire Brand with a lifetime warranty). Craftsman sells good stuff but I never set foot in Sears and I never heard of Kobalt. Also the quality and toughness is awesome. I have used chrome sockets on impact tools for years and never had one snap (I have the impact ones too). My 2 ratchets and socket kit have been in my toolbox for 25 years and I have never broken anything.

Snap on is nice but too expensive for nothing. Unless you are a mechanic, not worth it. If you are a mechanic, it's great, the truck comes to see you and you never go anywhere for anything.....the salesman come to you and they bring gifts, promo stuff etc....it's nice but not for me.



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Mario- You now can buy Snap-On online. Big change from the old days, but they still have the Snap-On and Mac trucks.

I have heard of Mastercraft, but never used them.

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Mario- You now can buy Snap-On online. Big change from the old days, but they still have the Snap-On and Mac trucks.

I have heard of Mastercraft, but never used them.
Yeah, I know you can buy online, have been for years. For a specialty tool maybe but then you get hit with shipping weight plus paying maybe double the price for the item you need.....not worth it. I don't have a job that depends on it. Anyways, the local Napa store here is dirt cheap for specialty tools (don't know why)

I bought a CH air kit with a ratchet, impact, zip gun (air hammer), paint gun and all the tips/bits and air blowers and nozzles on sale for 199.99 instead of 299.99 at Canadian Tire. It was a good deal for my home use on my cars. A Snap On air ratchet is $300 to $450.


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Mario- Shipping would be a big deal to Canada. It is free in the States for Snap-On.

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Now that I'm an intern I am looking at purchasing my own tools. Snap-On and MAC Tools are WAY expensive!!!! At least for me..
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I would avoid the "normal" Craftsman, but the Craftsman Professional line is OK.

Try to get wrenches (and sockets) that utilise a "flank drive" technology. It'll help keep you from rounding off nuts and bolt heads.

Flank drive used to be a Snap-On trademark, but others are offering similar technology now and it really works.

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I have both Craftsman and Snap-On.
In thirty years, I've only broken one Craftsman tool, and it was my fault.
I'm lucky in that I inherited my Snap-On tools.
I love them but could never justify the expense.
Of course, I'd feel differently if I made my living with them.

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My boss told me that they have a MAC tools salesmen come in every month with discounts, maybe this is something to look into.
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My boss told me that they have a MAC tools salesmen come in every month with discounts, maybe this is something to look into.
Negotiate hard! Make him quote best price on a starting kit and then do the same from a competitor.

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Negotiate hard! Make him quote best price on a starting kit and then do the same from a competitor.
Roger that.
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I vote Craftsman hand tools. Until very recently they had that quaint old fashioned characteristic of being made in the USA. They have evolved to try to maintain profitability in the marketplace. A sinking ship.

I am surprised at the comment that quality is going down; it seems to me Craftsman is becoming more Snap-on in their designs. A lot of the older Craftsman wrenches had nasty sharp edges.

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Brian- Mac and Snap-On (real Snap-On) are made in the States, too, last time I checked.

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Brian- Mac and Snap-On (real Snap-On) are made in the States, too,..
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...last time I checked.
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