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What do Americans/Other Countries think of Mclaren, Bentley, Aston?

Hi guys.

I've always wondered what Americans specifically think about British car manufacturers

How exotic do you guys think of Mclaren compared to the likes of Lamborghini and Ferrari (specifically since they both F1)

What do you think of the Aston? In U.K. (especially London) they are very common (all look similar lol) but in other countries I didn't see many of them -- I wouldn't place them as an exotic in England since you can see so many I would just call it a luxury car. Same pretty much goes for Bentley.

For example when I was in Istanbul the place was dominated by Ferrari's and a few Lamborghini's but I only saw possibly 4 Aston's there over 6 months of staying in the area. I would probably place the Ferrari Count around 50 or so.

When I was in Cape Town I didn't see many Aston's either - Dominated by Ferrari's and Audi R8's.

Obviously if you take a walk in Hollywood your going to see a lot of Italian cars -- but will you see those Bentley and Aston's?

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I am not American, but as a Canadian:

I find Astons to be nice cars on the outside and under the hood, but the interior leaves a great deal to be desired, even the more recent ones, with my friends 2011 Virage being one of the nicest looking cars until you open the door and sit in it.

I happen to really like Bentley's, I think the reinvention of them has been excellent and they have an imperial look to them.

I am, however, not a fan with Mclaren's, like the above, the performance is what you'd expect for the money, but the body designs just do not do it for me.

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I bought a Bentley SS Convertible and love it - feel it's a special car.

Mclaren - still on the fence but too many sitting around.

Aston - DBS is a stunner but they need to be bought and stabilize.

Audi R8 - love the car especially the spider.

Lambo - high quality builds and a beautiful car.

Problem is - they are all sitting in dealers showrooms and at certain times of the year they take up to 50k off MSRP unlike Ferrari excluding the FF.

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I bought a Bentley SS Convertible and love it - feel it's a special car.

Mclaren - still on the fence but too many sitting around.

Aston - DBS is a stunner but they need to be bought and stabilize.

Audi R8 - love the car especially the spider.

Lambo - high quality builds and a beautiful car.

Problem is - they are all sitting in dealers showrooms and at certain times of the year they take up to 50k off MSRP unlike Ferrari excluding the FF.
massive overcapacity in the luxury car market. business plans written in 2000-2005 are now pretty silly.

will be interesting to see how it plays out; some manufacturers need to drastically cut (or maybe even stop for a while) their production. for example: Lambo should stop making Gallardos until the all new Gallardo comes out, no more facelifts and "special" editions.

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massive overcapacity in the luxury car market. business plans written in 2000-2005 are now pretty silly.

will be interesting to see how it plays out; some manufacturers need to drastically cut (or maybe even stop for a while) their production. for example: Lambo should stop making Gallardos until the all new Gallardo comes out, no more facelifts and "special" editions.
Agree - it's interesting that a modern day exotic barely exists.

The so called specials are more marketing than reality.

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will be interesting to see how it plays out; some manufacturers need to drastically cut (or maybe even stop for a while) their production. for example: Lambo should stop making Gallardos until the all new Gallardo comes out, no more facelifts and "special" editions.
Agreed, I loved the 2003 original Gallardo up to the LP facelift, I don't think they needed any other versions apart from the superleggera.

I don't think they should bring out the Urus as well, stupid IMO even though it will boost the sales, I only see it doing really well in Asia. And it's not really Lamborghini-esq any more. Even though the LM0002 or something came out a while ago we all know Lambo from the Miura, Countach, Murcielago, Gallardo. - ruins brand image - not exotic anymore with that suv

@Doug - I think the new Vanquish looks nice. But how long until the DBS, Vantage, DB9 all look similar?

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Agreed, I loved the 2003 original Gallardo up to the LP facelift, I don't think they needed any other versions apart from the superleggera.

I don't think they should bring out the Urus as well, stupid IMO even though it will boost the sales, I only see it doing really well in Asia. And it's not really Lamborghini-esq any more. Even though the LM0002 or something came out a while ago we all know Lambo from the Miura, Countach, Murcielago, Gallardo. - ruins brand image - not exotic anymore with that suv.
Agree, and agree again. The "new" Gallardo looks ugly from the rear to me and even a facelift wan't needed to the G beside the last limited editioned Super Trofeo Stradale...

One thing I would have loved to see was the Estoque in a small series but the Urus (with the Maserati Kubang as well) shouldn't have been born...The true Lamborghinis for me were the 350 GT, Miura, Islero, Espada, Urraco, Diablo, till the Reventón.

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Agree, and agree again. The "new" Gallardo looks ugly from the rear to me and even a facelift wan't needed to the G beside the last limited editioned Super Trofeo Stradale...

One thing I would have loved to see was the Estoque in a small series but the Urus (with the Maserati Kubang as well) shouldn't have been born...The true Lamborghinis for me were the 350 GT, Miura, Islero, Espada, Urraco, Diablo, till the Reventón.
I thought the Performante was really nice.

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Terry, I've never liked these wings on cars, I hate it when I see it modded onto a Ferrari *pukes*

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Speaking of wings and Ferraris, the worst I've seen by far, was this:



Icing on the cake, that on another street picture, it had the windows tinted in red...

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Speaking of wings and Ferraris, the worst I've seen by far, was this:
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Canadian here and I love 'em all, especially Aston. McLaren isn't popular in North America, Bentley is somewhat, Aston is probably the most well-regarded of the 3... I blame James Bond flicks for that
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I don't really consider Bentleys to be British anymore. Certainly the Conti GT is a fine example of great German engineering. Astons look great but performance and build quality are not what they should be, McLaren qualifies as the only current British supercar manufacturer. I do like the lines on the P1.
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I don't really consider Bentleys to be British anymore. Certainly the Conti GT is a fine example of great German engineering. Astons look great but performance and build quality are not what they should be, McLaren qualifies as the only current British supercar manufacturer. I do like the lines on the P1.
Interesting, what do you think of the new vanquish?

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Interesting, what do you think of the new vanquish?
It is just a DBS that the designers breathed on. Not exactly a new model.
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I do like the new Vanquish a lot, but the starting prices are gonna be over 275k ($). As I saw, a fairly good DBS Coupe costs 100k less. Accelerates better (0,15 sec from 0-100 km/h) but lower top speed (302 vs 292). Still the quality of materials used in the Vanquish seems better than in his elder brother.

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It is just a DBS that the designers breathed on. Not exactly a new model.
I think so too, I don't know exactly what they are trying to do with the Vanquish, seems like a DBS to me like the Virage is a DB9.

Won't be long before the DBS, DB9, Vantage all look like the vanquish.

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Won't be long before the DBS, DB9, Vantage all look like the vanquish.
I think we hit that point a while ago. From a couple hundred yards it is near impossible to tell them apart.

Aston simply doesn't have the money to develop a proper new model.
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