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post #1 of 29 Old 08-12-2012, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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On Saturday, I met up with Vitalone and a couple of friends. Vitalone, the international man of mystery that he is, jets in and out quickly so it is always great that he fits in time for us to get together.

We went indoor karting and then to the local Porsche centre for a capuccino and cake. My friend called me to say that he was instructing at the Mclaren track day at Kyalami and that there was, amongst all the MP4-12Cs, a F1. Having only seen a GTR in the flesh I was keen to go past and did so around lunch time.

Unfortunately the F1 had left but as there were several other exotics on the track other than the Mclarens, I asked the organiser if I could take the Diablo for a few laps. The Diablo was great in a straight line but a bit of a truck in the corners - and I am very rusty, having not done any track driving for some time. The Diablo sounded great though and I am glad I had the chance to get out onto the circuit.

After my laps, my friend asked if I would like to do some laps in the MP4-12C. I expected to go as a passenger but ended up driving myself!!!

I haven'd ever driven a modern supercar and I must say that the Macca is absolutely crazy fast but also pretty idiot proof. I had the TC on and the car was so easy to boot out of corners without any drama at all.

The laps I did were without doubt the fastest I have ever done at Kyalami and it is testament to the advances in technology.

I must say though, I would rather have a 458 than the Macca and I can understand why some people feel its a little soul-less. Also, I am certain that it is too fast for road use and the track is a requirement if the limits are to be approached in any way. In this area, my 308 is more entertaining than even my 930 and Diablo - I can get it moving around in corners and give it revs in a few gears without the looming threat of a huge accident or a jail resulting fine!!!

All-in-all a great day

Some pics of my three cars as well.

Kind regards

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Hear you on the advances in technology. In many ways the 308 is more rewarding and exciting to drive.

Have you had a chance to drive a 458 on the track?
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I am quite far behind in terms of what I have driven. I actually only drove a 348 for the first time on Friday and I haven't driven 355, 360, 430 or 458 so the advances in tech are huge for me.

My wife's Evoque arrived a few weeks back and I use that to cart the kids around - I love going from it back into the 308 - from totally digital back into totally analogue.

When I was looking at the Diablo, I also considered a V8 Vantage. It's beautiful car but I found when test driving it that it just wasn't involving - by the end of the test drive I was a bit distracted and dare I say it bored. I got back into the 308 after that and immediately decided to go for the Diablo.

I hugely appreciate the ability of the Mclaren but I enjoy the challenge of getting a car through a corner and having to consciously consider and manage all the forces involved. For me that seemed to be missing.

All said though, a really cool experience!

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Great pictures!

There is a lot to be said for driving a slow car fast vs a fast car slow.

I really like the diversity - one for every mood.


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Thanks Doug

I also really like having such a diverse choice and seeing as I don't have another daily driver, it is always an occasion to go places.

I go to the gym at 5 in the monrning though and for that I use Wifey's Rangie - so I don't wake up the household!!!

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Thanks Doug

I also really like having such a diverse choice and seeing as I don't have another daily driver, it is always an occasion to go places.

I go to the gym at 5 in the monrning though and for that I use Wifey's Rangie - so I don't wake up the household!!!
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That's my hours - a few years ago sleep became far less important.

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It was great to see you again, Mike! A pity it was for a short time during my brief visit. Waiting in the departure lounge as I type this to return to my new home, Bratislava. Of course you modestly failed to mention that you were the quickest in the karts, quicker than the light weight lads of 14 and 11. And quicker than the heavy weight yours truly (well that's my excuse and I am sticking to it!)

The Diablo is magnificent, so much more impressive in the flesh than the pics. As for that angry V12 bellow! A different music to the Ferrari V12. The drive to Porsche Centre was something what with an Audi R8 unable to escape that black 964RS clubsport welded to its tail with silver Diablo, yellow 993 turbo and yours truly at the wheel of a maritime blue 964RS clubsport in hot pursuit.

Indeed the McLarens sounded great and looked quick, a pity I did not get behind the wheel, your report makes up for some of that.

Enjoyed a great drive back to John's place during a classic highveld late Winter afternoon with the maritime blue RS mirroring the deep blue sky with golden tinge from the sun before it turns that deep African orange. With the angry roar of that flat 6 filling the bare cabin (bereft of everything except nomax covered front seats and full rollcage) with soulful music of a racing car lightly tamed for the road! Immersion in the analogue thrill.

Looking forward to seeing you and Africa soon!

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Hi All

On Saturday, I met up with Vitalone and a couple of friends. Vitalone, the international man of mystery that he is, jets in and out quickly so it is always great that he fits in time for us to get together.

We went indoor karting and then to the local Porsche centre for a capuccino and cake. My friend called me to say that he was instructing at the Mclaren track day at Kyalami and that there was, amongst all the MP4-12Cs, a F1. Having only seen a GTR in the flesh I was keen to go past and did so around lunch time.

Unfortunately the F1 had left but as there were several other exotics on the track other than the Mclarens, I asked the organiser if I could take the Diablo for a few laps. The Diablo was great in a straight line but a bit of a truck in the corners - and I am very rusty, having not done any track driving for some time. The Diablo sounded great though and I am glad I had the chance to get out onto the circuit.

After my laps, my friend asked if I would like to do some laps in the MP4-12C. I expected to go as a passenger but ended up driving myself!!!

I haven'd ever driven a modern supercar and I must say that the Macca is absolutely crazy fast but also pretty idiot proof. I had the TC on and the car was so easy to boot out of corners without any drama at all.

The laps I did were without doubt the fastest I have ever done at Kyalami and it is testament to the advances in technology.

I must say though, I would rather have a 458 than the Macca and I can understand why some people feel its a little soul-less. Also, I am certain that it is too fast for road use and the track is a requirement if the limits are to be approached in any way. In this area, my 308 is more entertaining than even my 930 and Diablo - I can get it moving around in corners and give it revs in a few gears without the looming threat of a huge accident or a jail resulting fine!!!

All-in-all a great day

Some pics of my three cars as well.

Kind regards

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Enjoyed a great drive back to John's place during a classic highveld late Winter afternoon with the maritime blue RS mirroring the deep blue sky with golden tinge from the sun before it turns that deep African orange. With the angry roar of that flat 6 filling the bare cabin (bereft of everything except nomax covered front seats and full rollcage) with soulful music of a racing car lightly tamed for the road! Immersion in the analogue thrill.
Perfect prose as ever David - no need for pictures

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Sounds like a really fun day and your description of the McLaren matches most of what I have read. Not sure how sales are going for them, but have heard dealer inventory is a bit higher than they would like.

My techs just changed the clutch on a Diablo and had to pull the engine. Is that normal?

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Sounds like a really fun day and your description of the McLaren matches most of what I have read. Not sure how sales are going for them, but have heard dealer inventory is a bit higher than they would like.
I have heard the same. Values in the UK have taken a hit as well.
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The mclarens are doing quite good in South Africa although not yet so popular. You can't compare anything to a Ferrari...the owner of Mclaren South Africa (CEO of Daytona Group) arranged that the Mclaren and a 458 have a race around the track well the Mclaren beat the 458 by almost 5 seconds, but take into consideration that a Mclaren is twin turbo v8, let's go and do the same to a 458 and it'll be a bigger beast.

All things aside I like Mclaren, but it's incomparable to any Ferrari IMO

@Schumacher were you at the auction(1st of August) with the Porsche? I recall seeing one very similar outside there? Anyway awesome pics and lovely stories.

No better place than SA where the weather is always good for a lil' run

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Hi Jesse - it was me at the auction - pity we missed one another

To change the clutch on the Diablo the engine has to come out as far as I know - Gulp

Dave - the day was great to catch up but too short - looking forward to seeing the Boxer when she is ready

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The mclarens are doing quite good in South Africa although not yet so popular. You can't compare anything to a Ferrari...the owner of Mclaren South Africa (CEO of Daytona Group) arranged that the Mclaren and a 458 have a race around the track well the Mclaren beat the 458 by almost 5 seconds, but take into consideration that a Mclaren is twin turbo v8, let's go and do the same to a 458 and it'll be a bigger beast.

All things aside I like Mclaren, but it's incomparable to any Ferrari IMO

@Schumacher were you at the auction(1st of August) with the Porsche? I recall seeing one very similar outside there? Anyway awesome pics and lovely stories.

No better place than SA where the weather is always good for a lil' run

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Mike, is this one yours?
Yep - that's mine!!!

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Haha wow can't believe it, we parked right behind you! The pic is also on exoticspotter
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Thanks Jesse - flattering to have the 930 on exoticspotter - it's not even that exotic!!!

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Thanks Jesse - flattering to have the 930 on exoticspotter - it's not even that exotic!!!
Oh yes it is! Not often you see an unmodified, immaculate 930. Have bought a copy of the July GT Porsche mag for you featuring a silver 930 on the cover. Has to be a sleeper in the classic car world. One day...

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Thanks Dave - one day possibly and investment realised - for now just enjoy the boost!!!

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