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post #1 of 18 Old 05-26-2012, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
 
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I'm Loving This!

Fiat, Mazda to jointly develop roadster - Autoweek

The built in Hiroshima is what bothers me the most but I have to be stoked about a new Alfa Spider. I just hope it's more Alfa than Mazda.

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post #2 of 18 Old 05-26-2012, 02:56 PM
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an alpha spider mixed with a miata? seems like a can't lose situation.



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It should be built in Italy in my opinion but I think you're right. I know I'll love it when I drive it, which will probably lead to:

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how about we compromise. fiat can design and build the body and mazda can do the drivetrain and chassis?



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Mazda should definitely handle the chassis. Alfa/Fiat should handle the drivetrain and each should have seperate styling (Pininfarina for Alfa). I wonder if the Mazda will be offered here as well(which it probably will). If it is I worry it will take sells from Alfa, sells it desperately needs.

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an alpha spider mixed with a miata? seems like a can't lose situation.
I agree. Provided each get the right bits of the project.

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From what I understand there's not going to be much joint development at all.
Mazda will build it mx5 as usual, while Alfa will basically just shove a fiat engine under the bonnet, fit different headlights, front grill, interior etc... and sell it on as it's own car for a few thousand Euro more than the mx5
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More Info from Fiat:
http://www.fiatspa.com/en-US/media_c...on_program.pdf

Thanks to that second paragraph I'm going to have to change the title: I'm Loving This!
I need to start looking at “The Glass Half Full” for a change.

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how about we compromise. fiat can design and build the body and mazda can do the drivetrain and chassis?


How about the Italians design the look and the sound and the Japanese can get the price down and make it reliable.
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So this should replace the 4c presented at Geneve and based on the X-bow KTM chassis ?!?

After the decision to produce the Alfa Romeo's SUV in the US, this is the death spell of the real Alfa Romeo. Forget its Italian heritage, the 'new' Alfa will be just a meaningless badge on cars without traditions and soul. Very, very sad.

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I feel the same way, Mauro, and I believe it all started with the 164's shared platform. However, I believe this is a step in the right direction when you look at the FWD last gen Spider.

I think the 4C is a completely different and unrelated machine.

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I feel the same way, Mauro, and I believe it all started with the 164's shared platform. However, I believe this is a step in the right direction when you look at the FWD last gen Spider.

I think the 4C is a completely different and unrelated machine.
Hi Nathan, I hope you are right for the 4c, but I doubt Alfa Romeo will put into production two spiders at the same time. Today Alfa' s production is on just two models: Nuova Giulietta and MITO, none of which is aligned with the tradition of the brand.

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Looks like a great partnership, but I hope it's not a prelude to a new Ferrari Dino.

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Hi Nathan, I hope you are right for the 4c, but I doubt Alfa Romeo will put into production two spiders at the same time. Today Alfa' s production is on just two models: Nuova Giulietta and MITO, none of which is aligned with the tradition of the brand.

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If they build it in italy an I going to have change the dam belt every 3 years!!!
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I have heard from a reliable source that we will see the 4C and a new Spider in the US in the next 12 months.

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Looks like a great partnership, but I hope it's not a prelude to a new Ferrari Dino.
Hey is that a pun ? Prelude (Honda) and Ferrari now instead.

Seriously though- the right bits are important. I did a volunteer stint in an Israeli army program with (other) american graduate students. They hoped to match the Israeli work ethic with American attention to detail. In the end we had a bunch of lazy soldiers with no focus.
Let's hope not to see Japanese design and Italian reliability and pricing.

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4C spotted yesterday.... IN MICHIGAN!!!!


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