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post #1 of 47 Old 02-21-2012, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Help! I think I've gone mad!

Alright, I have been wanting a project car for awhile now and I knew I wanted something Italian. I started off looking for either an Alfa or a Biturbo and thanks to you guys I quickly abandoned looking for a Biturbo and also put Fiat Spiders on the list.

This weekend I finally decided to go look at a Fiat on Craigslist for $900 and after a little haggling she followed me home for $600!

The Good:

It runs great!

Its almost all there, too!

The Bad:

The PO decided that to fix a few small holes he needed to cut out the WHOLE passenger side floor board INCLUDING part of the cross member

The Story:

While the original owner had it, some thieves decided to take an axe to the trunk to get the battery! After that he pushed it into a field and thats where it sat until 2 years ago when the PO bought it.

When he got it to his house he was putting the hood up and little did he know that a full-grown copper head was wrapped around the air filter ready to strike! It got him on the elbow, his father-in-law killed it, put it in a bucket, and rushed him to the hospital!

Its sitting, poisonous snake free, in the garage right now waiting for a floor board. Looks like I'm going to have to learn how to weld...
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post #2 of 47 Old 02-21-2012, 09:14 AM
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that car looks great for a project. Look to the Metal Surgeon for pointers his work here is very nice and innovative.

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Nathan- Halfway to a Ferrari. You just need the other four cylinder tied to the same crank. Looks like a fun project. My neighbor has one just like yours set up as a race car that costs nothing to run. Fun cars.

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Hi Rossoveloce, surely that 124 spider needs a lot of efforts to be properly restored. You some interesting days ahead!
Let me know if you need help in identifying the right components for the car or if you have doubts about them. Btw, do you know it's story?

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that car looks great for a project. Look to the Metal Surgeon for pointers his work here is very nice and innovative.
Thanks, I will. I found a link to his site and his work on that 1960 PF is awesome.

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Nathan- Halfway to a Ferrari. You just need the other four cylinder tied to the same crank. Looks like a fun project. My neighbor has one just like yours set up as a race car that costs nothing to run. Fun cars.
Yep, halfway there. I was told that its actually a Lampredi designed engine, is that true?

I'm thinking once its done I'll run it in a stock SCCA class just for fun.

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Hi Rossoveloce, surely that 124 spider needs a lot of efforts to be properly restored. You some interesting days ahead!
Let me know if you need help in identifying the right components for the car or if you have doubts about them. Btw, do you know it's story?

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Will do, Any help is greatly appreciated.

Right now that is everything I know about the car.

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15 years ago I would have jumped at the chance.....maybe because I didn't have little kids and welding and working on a lifted car is not the thing to do now....

Seems like a cool project. Maybe If my girls were a little older, a project like that could be cool.

But I will say this....don't let her die alone in a field eaten by rust.....




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But I will say this....don't let her die alone in a field eaten by rust.....
No way I'd let that happen! She's going to have her paint stripped, then covered in rust protectant and after everything's said and done, she'll be living a life of luxury cruising by the lake with the top!

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Great thread and good for you!

Congrats and enjoy the world of not for the faint of heart restorations.

Looking forward to seeing a lot more posts to the finale!
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if you haven't gone mad, you may! congrats on the project and good luck with it. can't wait to watch the progress. My old fiat is do for a spruce up soon too.



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Yep, halfway there. I was told that its actually a Lampredi designed engine, is that true?

I'm thinking once its done I'll run it in a stock SCCA class just for fun.
You know.......if you were to say drop in a ferrari V8 engine you'd have you missing 4 and you could still slide it into the street modified class I think
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post #13 of 47 Old 02-21-2012, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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I'll definitely keep you guys posted. Wetpet, going mad is another definite considering I know nothing about bodywork at all!

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You know.......if you were to say drop in a ferrari V8 engine you'd have you missing 4 and you could still slide it into the street modified class I think
That'd give those Miatas a run for their money! Lmao

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Nathan- Lancia did it so no reason you cannot do it. Might want a different transmission, too, or large pieces might go missing.

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post #16 of 47 Old 02-22-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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how'd I miss this thread?

RossoVeloce, I feel just a little bit responsible here, because I remember being a loud voice against the BiTurbos, and a loud voice FOR the Fiat Spider.

So it's kind of like me being Dr. Frankenstein, and you being the monster.... or... wait, that came out wrong.

anyway....

I might be your best friend on this for awhile. I know these cars very, very well. I just recently dumped all but one of mine (I've owned a total of 12 over the years, and as many as 3 at a time) to make room (both in the garage and in the budget) for the imminent first-Ferrari purchase...

What part of the country are you in? Depending on what may be hidden with bondo, You did just fine for $600.
Yes, this is a Lampredi motor. It's a flat-plane crank as well, and makes some great sounds. It's no rocket-ship, but the motor can be built to 150hp without breaking the bank, which for a car that weighs south of 2000lbs can be a LOT of fun.

parts are readily available, for the most part. it's not a car you should think of as an investment. Even the most meticulously restored cars struggle to fetch more than $10k, with good, solid, reasonable "driver" condition cars selling for between $3500 & $5000 every day. so decide what you want to do with it and don't look back.

And let me know if I can help with knowledge, tips, or even parts.

I'm excited I'm finally going to get to help someone on this forum!

The car I kept is currently in the shop getting a new interior while I've got the motor on the stand getting a go-through. But here it is not too long ago.


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post #17 of 47 Old 02-24-2012, 03:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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Yes, I probably wouldn't have even considered a Fiat without your advice, the more I looked at them the more they grew on me. Now I think I'm infected

I forgot to say that mine is a 78 1800. What year is yours?

The previous owner already found what was hidden under bondo for me, I'll Ty to post a pic of it but it's not pretty!

BTW, I ordered a floor pan yesterday from IAP and it should be here soon!

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Mine is a '76.

So, you thinking a classic restoration? Or more of a resto-mod?
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post #19 of 47 Old 02-24-2012, 12:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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I would like to keep it as original as possible but I would like to get some more power.

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Keep the four banger and add a turbo.
You will increase the power and keep the weight on the front axle stock.

You will be surprised with the outcome.
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