nudity at home is one thing. people having color pictures of my under age daughter, too me, is child pornography. i imagine more people are with me than against me on that one.
I'll let this one go: I do NOT endorse Child pornography, and as a matter of fact work a lot to thwart such.
Soon, well be arguing about babies not being able to be scanned and then at what age, and then the entire protect my image thing will overshadow security vs personal rights. I have no problem, and like you say, just me and mine, to having some things done to protect others and mine.
As far as being safe, which i think goes a long way to answering most of your other points, yes i feel safe. Always have. Even counting 9/11 i have more of a chance of being struck by lightning than getting hurt on a plane. Anyone that doesn't feel safe is either drinking the kool aid or is neurotic. Air travel, especially in the us, is the safest form of travel. period. exclamation point.
sigh: Depends on what you believe is safe: If lack of accidents is safe to you, then so be it. Statistics are just a hair behond 'damn lies'.
I do NOT feel safe. Hell, I don't feel all that safe even when I'm flying my own plane. I feel confident that most things will go correctly, but to feel safe? naw. I just accept my fate for the whatever. If not a plane, do YOU feel safe? Do you know who maintained that plane, or that the inspections were done correctly, or that Pilot B is hiding his drug problem?
or or or.????
I KNOW, for a fact, many/most of US maintenance is lacking and even being out-sourced to South America for American planes and it's just a matter of time. Mark those words. You will see that chestnut get us: FAA is NOT EVEN inspecting those facilities. The manuals supplied to 'qualified' mechanics are still in English, while the standard, has the problem that > 70% of the mechs are not English savvy. They are not even applying the correct type of rivet in the correct sequence: Check it out.
As for drinking the cool aid, not every one that feels the need to believe your way, is yesterday's Holiday fruit-cake: I am not, and believe me I have done quite a bit of things in my day. I've lived in so many non-American venues in 3rd world countries, that I know what being an American can be, what safety is, and how to keep my personal motto: Don't Panic.
But if you want to feel like we are safe, or that the inspectors or the TSAs personnel are absolutely the best, final step in your safety, then my only comment would be: what flavor Cool-Aid have you accepted?
My point is the people in power don't mind pushing through these kind of things because it will not apply to them.
Has always, been the case. What ever made one think the priv. had to comply or were part of the social solution?
Not saying I wouldn't want them participating. We all have guilt in this area to some degree. In some countries, you wouldn't be the least surprised nor even care, to see who gets the 3rd degree vs you [a part of the 'priv' class there] and go to arms about it. Heck. Bet you don't have problems as much as a darkskinned person in NYC getting a cab.
we don't have to be scanned now. it's not about you not feeling safe
Uh, YES IT IS about me wanting to feel safe. That's my whole point.
because i don't want to get scanned. It's about me not wanting to be scanned because you don't feel safe. get it?
- How do you feel now not being able to wear your shoes, or take coffee from curb to seat, or your fav big bottle of shampo? Is that something you want to do, because personally I have no problem with scanning but removing my shoes seems to stupid. Ya' think someone if they truly wanted would not find a way to hide something. I'm thinking internal cavities here or worse.
- One person [like you] not wanting for the sake of thumbing nose to other's concern for safety has no place in my concerns.
I bet, you DO have some lee way on some areas that fit 'your acceptance', yet, others feel violated: Veils, turbins, head gear....just to start. Would you like a person wearing a mask onto a plane? I wouldn't.
Like I said, I don't like it, but am used to it, in giving up my personal freedoms for the safety of all, to include my self.
Do I feel safe: NO
Do I feel safer: perhaps
Do I feel something could still happen: Yup
Would I want 'them' to employ scanning: yes, as it would make me feel more safe than not
BUT, the biggest thing here is 'feel'. there are no guarantees...thus, I don't feel safe, cool aid or not. Never will I from the past or future. Just because planes are not dropping out of the sky doesn't mean there is safety, just stats say "it hasn't taken place yet". I don't believe Bush's last admin. ever made us more safe because he was in power any more than I do today. Matter of fact, it has proven out NOTHING HAS TRULY CHANGED from Richard Reid's shoe to that Yahoo on Christmas day: Gawd, how in the heck could you say it safer? PS: That pic above, on identity...the guy who tackled the Christmas day terrorist when every one stood looking.
do you think everyone that drives a truck should be scanned?
No. But, I'd bet if there were money enough it would have happend. I said it before, we are doomed to our own designs. It will only get worse.
Are you afraid to walk into a federal building now?
Yes. But less afraid than an airplane. Securities can be thwarted. Just last week a double agent [albeit, helped by the CIA types he was to see in thwarting the system] blew up many from within.
we are already on the slippery slope. don't throw cooking oil on it.
I can accept that giving up freedoms for common carrier safety is ok with me as it seems a minimal approach to the suicidal bomber. Yet, I KNOW/accept, it will happen, somewhere, sometime, somehow and I may be on that fated device just munching my 'free' nuts. Even traveling naked.
I am not sure where this entire discussion is going. We seem to be splitting hairs with no solutions: the Ivory tower approach. SO: let us talk solutions.
You want to throw out scanners
What do you do in lack of?
My solution was to make the tech better, and if not ready for prime time, then go fwd now, anyway. But that is me not having a problem with the scanner. So, I am guessing I just have to be more afraid that because you personally don't want to be scanned due to personal reasons, that we cannot employ any tech, right now. It's all about you.
SO: What [and let us keep this one narrow] is your solution. [please just don't tell me profiling is the key....that has so many loose ends that scanners were invented to defeat that]
What, are we to do in place of scanners that you accept?