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Flavio Briatore leaves renault why?

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/9940.html
maybe all these stabs at Renault finally got to him.

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Nothing has been proved and the various press reports are all speculation. However, looking at the evidence which appears to have been deliberately leaked by those with a vested interest in removing Flav. It looks as though Flav and Symonds would have been guilty as charged. Reading between the lines it looks as though the Board of Renault decided to act sooner to protect what was left of their reputation, as they knew the evidence wasn't looking good for them. Hence their decision not to contest the hearing.
I'm sure they aren't the only team to have cheated in F1, but as McLaren have had the book thrown at them in the past, Renault deserve the same treatment. It looks as though Flav and Symonds' reputations have been damaged beyond repair. I can't see Renault being in F1 in 2010 regardless of the punishment the FIA dish out.

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....... the Board of Renault decided to act sooner to protect what was left of their reputation,I can't see Renault being in F1 in 2010 regardless of the punishment the FIA dish out.
two serious offenses in less than a couple/three years and the sport doesn't need this type of Renault. Probably perma-ban until all have left and time has left Renault dry ... perhaps.

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Taken from Andrew Benson's blog on the BBC F1 website

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Briatore bows out in unsavoury style
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Andrew Benson | 14:07 UK time, Wednesday, 16 September 2009

Flavio Briatore's departure from his position as the boss of the Renault team in the wake of the Singapore race-fixing scandal robs Formula 1 of one of its most flamboyant and controversial characters.

The 59-year-old Italian, who has cultivated an image as a jet-setting playboy businessman, left his position as team principal after Renault decided not to contest charges that they had asked their driver Nelson Piquet Jr to deliberately crash in last year's Singapore Grand Prix.

The allegation has rocked F1 to the core, the latest damaging episode for a sport that has recently suffered a number of cases that have brought its integrity into question.

There was the 'spy scandal' of 2007, when McLaren were found to illegally have possession of confidential technical information about the car of rivals Ferrari. McLaren were fined $100m (then 49m) and thrown out of the constructors' championship for that.

Shortly afterwards, Renault themselves escaped punishment after being found guilty of a similar charge.

Since then there has been 'lie-gate', when Lewis Hamilton, the world champion, was found to have misled stewards over his actions in this year's Australian Grand Prix, and numerous rows over rules and politics.

Earlier this year, F1 was in danger of being torn apart when a group of eight teams threatened to break away and set up a rival championship.

This one trumps the lot, though.

Briatore formed a close relationship with F1 impresario Bernie Ecclestone

Some people inside F1 have attempted to play it down, suggesting that teams are always looking for the 'unfair advantage' in their attempt to win, and that it should just be accepted as part of the sport.

But F1 has long been notorious for its skewed sense of morality, and it appears that may be what has led to this latest scandal. For that is exactly what it is.

The attempt to gain an unfair advantage is only one aspect of what is so wrong about what appears to have happened in Singapore last September.

In essence, what we are talking about here - if they are found guilty at Monday's hearing of the FIA's world motorsport council - is a team that was prepared to put at risk their driver's safety - and that of his competitors, marshals and the spectators at the race - in an attempt to engineer a better result for another driver.

It smacks of desperation, which is odd because Alonso, at least, was competitive in Singapore that weekend. Renault had been having a dreadful year, but changes to their car had made it a front-runner by that late stage of the season, and he was down in 15th on the grid only because of a mechanical problem in qualifying. He went on to legitimately win the following race in Japan with a quite brilliant drive.




Whatever sparked the decision for Piquet to crash on purpose in order to engineer a safety car period that would benefit Alonso - and who knows whether the truth will ever come out - two of F1's most prominent and brilliant figures have lost their jobs over it. Engineer and strategist Pat Symonds has also been forced out of Renault along with Briatore.

As it happens, Briatore's downfall may not be entirely unconnected with the political battles that have scarred much of this season. Certainly most people within F1 believe the one has come out of the other.

The Formula 1 Teams' Association (Fota) ultimately won its battle with Max Mosley, president of governing body the FIA, over the future direction of F1. But Mosley, forced to agree that he would not run again for president in October's elections in order to get Fota back on board, has never been one to take defeat lightly.

There are plenty of people in F1 who believe he has taken his opportunity to exact revenge for his defeat. After all, Briatore was one of the hawks in that battle - to the point that Mosley was moved to describe him as a "loony".

Briatore's business career first took off when he established Benetton in North America in the 1980s - a move which made him a very rich man. His first involvement in F1 came in 1988, when he was employed to run the commercial side of the company's racing team, quickly being promoted to team boss.

It was there that he first met Symonds.

Along with the brilliant technical director Ross Brawn, the designer Rory Byrne and the hard-nosed manager Tom Walkinshaw, Briatore set about turning the team into a major contender for wins and championships.

Briatore's genius as a team boss was his ability to realise his limitations - he understood nothing of the technical or strategic side of F1 and didn't want to - and instead focus on the commercial side of the sport.

In that sense, his presence in the sport for the last 20 years has been a valuable one. He constantly reminded his fellow team owners that F1's success - and their bank accounts - depended on the fans, not on obscure engineering excellence.

"Every meeting I go to," he would say, "people are talking about pistons and suspension. Nobody goes to a race to see that kind of thing. People come to see [Michael] Schumacher and [Ayrton] Senna racing each other."

Ironically, Mosley himself would use similar sentiments when railing against what he perceived as the short-sightedness of the teams this year.

In other ways, though, many will take a more equivocal view of Briatore's involvement in F1.

His ruthlessness was in evidence when he stole Schumacher from under Eddie Jordan's nose in 1991 and parachuted the German into one of Benetton's cars.

And the mystery surrounding his origins was heightened when a bomb went off outside his London home in 1993, something which has never been satisfactorily explained.

With Schumacher at the wheel, Benetton finally achieved their first world title in 1994, but it was a triumph overshadowed by a year of quite extraordinary controversy.

Benetton were accused of running illegal traction control, but got away with it. The FIA found the device in the Benetton cars but could not prove it had been used in races.

There were also rows over the team's official fuel rig, which had been tampered with - Walkinshaw lost his job as a result - while Schumacher was excluded from a total of four races for various transgressions by either him or the team.

After winning another world title in 1995, Schumacher left, taking Brawn and Byrne with him to Ferrari, after which Benetton entered a slow cycle of decline. Briatore was eventually replaced as boss by David Richards.

By this time, Briatore's keen eye for F1's commercial value, allied to his maverick approach, had led to a close friendship with the sport's tsar, Bernie Ecclestone. They both have a stake in Queen's Park Rangers, a football club in the English Football League.

Briatore took something of a back seat for a while, running Renault's customer engine supply business for a couple of years. But a string of high-profile liaisons with supermodels, among them Naomi Campbell and Heidi Klum, kept him in the public eye and enhanced his glamorous image. He has also established his own 'Billionaire' clothing brand and set up a nightclub in Sardinia, a restaurant in London, a beach club in Tuscany and a holiday resort in Kenya.


Then, when Renault bought the Benetton team in 2000, the French automotive giant re-installed him as boss and he began turning the team around again.

Just as he had done the first time, he built it around an outstanding young driver, Alonso, who had impressed Briatore with his performances in the Formula 3000 feeder series.

The Spaniard became the youngest race-winner in F1 history in 2003 - a status he lost to the German Sebastian Vettel last year - and, by 2005, was in a position to challenge for the world title. Alonso and Renault delivered in style, clinching it with two races still to go.

They followed that up with an even more impressive victory in 2006, keeping their nerve and beating Schumacher and Ferrari in a straight fight.

Alonso then left for an ill-fated year at McLaren before returning after falling out with McLaren chief Ron Dennis. But not even Alonso's return could arrest Renault's decline.

All year there has been speculation - fuelled by Mosley, who is uncomfortable about the power wielded by the manufacturers - that Renault would quit F1 at the end of this season as a result of their lack of success and declining road-car sales.

Briatore has always shrugged those allegations off, but this latest development can surely only increase the chances of Renault not being on the grid next season. On the other hand, Renault's decision to jettison Briatore and Symonds could be seen as a signal that they wish to carry on.

By the end of the year, it may not be just Briatore and Symonds who have left F1 in the wake of this latest unsavoury turn of events.

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interesting read, in that it probably in not speculation as much as it is true.

Here's the rub;
1. Alonso, who was receiving intel from his test driver directly [and proven] regarding the tech specs and Ferrari in '07
2. Who [please he must have known something...everyone in the paddock were speculating right after the crash] that Piquet was 'fishy', and once again, was on the high, receiving side of these stunts,
3. Now comes to Ferrari?

Piquet will never race again.
Honestly put honor out of reach, albeit he 'may' sleep better
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to put danger to all, above all else.....why would anyone want to do this .. the results seem so understood.

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wow, after reading that it just goes to show how much teams are willing to just throw away to win. its crazy but then again it is the worlds biggest sport.

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Very interesting report. I wonder sometimes though... lots of talk of the damage recent scandals have done to F1. Agreed from a purest point of view, but from a more realistic point of view, the media (and public) lap it up, it is the only F1 news that hits mainstream headlines, and they do say there is no such thing as bad publicity...
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I think the scandal only makes F1 more exciting, it certainly gains it publicity, and as Barry said, all publicity is good.

I can't see this damaging F1 in the long run. Come the start of the 2010 season everyone will have forgotten about it.

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as Barry said, all publicity is good.
Can't argue with that. I'd never heard of Paris Hilton until that sex tape scandal made her a household name.

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I'd never heard of Exxon till they smashed that tanker on the rocks in Alaska.

Not ALL publicity is good since I will never fuel up at Exxon. Also Orbitz airlines... The Best Page In The Universe guy once flew with them and he had crap connections and service, and based on that and similar reports from other people, I will never fly Orbitz.

Although I do think that politicians cling to "All publicity is good publicity". But then again... most politicians aren't known for being terribly smart
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Can't argue with that. I'd never heard of Paris Hilton until that sex tape scandal made her a household name.
Neither had I, or that bloke on the Pamela Anderson video, Brett someone or other.

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Neither had I, or that bloke on the Pamela Anderson video, Brett someone or other.
Brett Michaels???

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Brett Michaels???
Tommy LEE???? i mean come on guys

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Who is Pamela Anderson?
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