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Making good progress. Should look great when finished.

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Blasting reveals the metal underneath

Note that the white sections surprised me - I asked the media blaster if he changed media. He replied "No, that is all lead"

I was absolutely floored as to how much lead was used on these cars!
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One of the nicest reveals was the Pininfarina, Scaglietti body number "2024" found under the engine bonnet and rear trunk hood. It apparently was made in grease pencil and saved over the years, only seen after the media removed the top coat
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Other locations where the PF / Scagliettii Body Numer "2024" was found were the door jamb faces, door edges, the radiator overflow tank mount, the trunk hinges, forward door edge trim, targa top rain gutters and even interior pieces.

These were truly hand built cars and parts needed to be numbered and associated with a specific body to match each.
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Once stripped, Dino 05702 needed immediate coating to preserve the metal.

It looks as if the car had been curbed many times. It was wearing low profile tires when I bought it and I imagine it gathered marks from every speed bump it went over.


In addition, rust was present in "The Usual Suspects" areas of the double sandwich metal aft of the rear wheels, the doors, arch rockers behind the front wheels and the lateral support angles below the footwells.

I had read about the areas that trap water in many Dino Books, now I had first hand experience.

05702 had needs .... many needs
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While we're on the subject of VIN, chassis number, engine number, transaxle number and Scaglietti body number I forgot to mention that in 2005 I submitted these to Ferrari and received their confirmation of originality, The Heritage Certificate follow on Color Certificate
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The joys of undoing previous repairs that were done for cost effectiveness at the time. Great thread Scott

As you've discovered lead filling is a crucial aspect of the original construction so it's critical to get a restorer who understands how to work with lead to re-instate all those seductive curves properly and to ensure all of the shut lines are nice and even. Many shops don't have this skill hence their abundant use of body filler instead.

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Another fantastic restoration. Thanks for this thread and keep the photos comming.
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The tin worm got into just about all Ferraris of that vintage. Yours actually looks pretty good. I do not think I had had mine more than a couple of hours in 1975, before I had contact with the ground on the front end. Very litte ground clearance and yours looks suitably bent under there.

This did not help.
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Whiile the car had still been in paint I had five high end painters visit it and each had said "It looks like a good start but we won't know what we have to work with until we strip it and find out what the metal is like"

Let's just say after stripping it down to metal I had a revelation ...
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I met several excellent bodymen;
Ted Atkins is an expert panel beater (206) 713-1627
Elliot TolerScott is a great overall body man (206) 762-0122
but I still had not found somebody that could do it all; bodywork, panelwork and chassis work as I wanted every dimple and bad jack lifting point dmage removed from the frame so it could be back to as it originally came from the factory.


... until I met Butch Dennison of Dennsion International. Butch does the exclusive work on Ferrari collector's Jon Shirley, Greg Whitten, Todd Morici, the Keenan brothers and more. His Pebble Beach winning awards are extensive but the most important thing was that he could do every task I wanted. The Dino was loaded up and transported to his huge facility where Dino 05702 would be restored adjacent to 250 GTO's, SWB's, TdF's and a host of wonderful vintage cars.

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Butch's Dennison International had the go ahead and we loaded up Dino 05702
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Before deciding on Dennison International, I toured the facility and several factors really weighed heavy on my decision:

- the skill of the Dennison International workers and past history of projects resulting in Pebble Beach wins

- the tools available to do the job in house;

- the laser flat jig table which is a Boeing 747 surplus piece that allows the Dino to be mounted on a perfectly flat reference table to preserve the chassis geometry while chassis work is completed

- the "picture frame" which is a device Butch discovered in use at high end, old world facilties while on a trip to Modena. The surround rides fore - aft on rollers while the car is hard mounted to the frame. This allows relative tangents to be drawn from the reference to the body allowing fabricators to retain symmetry as the perform body work.
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The first thing Butch did was to outline all the lead and filler that was used by Scaglietti when they oiginally fabricated the body.
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Next was the rust and compromised metal so that his tasks were outlined
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Stunning images Terry - Thank you!

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The tin worm got into just about all Ferraris of that vintage. Yours actually looks pretty good. I do not think I had had mine more than a couple of hours in 1975, before I had contact with the ground on the front end. Very litte ground clearance and yours looks suitably bent under there.

This did not help.
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After speaking with five high quality painters I decide to go all the way; every ounce of lead removed, every panel surfaced, and every chassis dimple from careless bottom jacking removed.

Each painter has stated that their work efort will be "made or broken" depending on the surface underneath and "90% of the quality of paint depends on metal preparation".

Dennison International then start work to address the issues. The first step is to place Dino 05702 on their laser flat jig table with hard points. Reference tools and spans are fabricated to maintain the geometry of the Dino.
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SCM246, amazing and scary !

Thanx for sharing the works.

Scared to ask what the total bill comes to, but then, I have no doubt it would cost a whole lot more over here.

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Dennison charges $78/hr, all work is estimated, approved by me then scheduled on spreadsheets and the process is photo documented. They do not mess around and do not need to stop work to get tools or suuplies as they have it all.

Best money I ever spent. I have had the car 20 years so this is a huge amount of trust but I am so happy in the process and results.
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purpose of removing lead?
what will it be replaced with?
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The goal of removing lead is to have a consistent and stable, rust free surface on which to apply paint. In addition the construction of many areas of the Dino hid rust underneath the surface; e.g. the rockers, wheel arches, aft well metal which had a "double layer sandwich". Multiple books on the Dino document that the construction had traps and holding wells where water would pool and stay, not being able to drain.

Next step is to move the Dino to the "Picture Frame", securely mount it to work on the sheet metal. Over 150 pounds of lead were removed from Dino 05702
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