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Dino number 3

My third Dino has been collected this morning. It's been a long and interesting purchase as it's a car I originally considered when I bought my first 246 back in 2010. I didn't go to view due to it's distant location from me after speaking to a vehicle detailer who had worked on it and gave me a very thorough and fair appraisal of it's condition. It was evident it needed more work than another car I had seen and subsequently decided to buy.

I kept in touch with the owner and having since restored one example and now being mid way through restoring a second I felt confident that I could accurately estimate the likely costs involved. A purchase deal was agreed based upon my restoration budget projections and the work will begin at the end of the summer.

It's a December 1971 E series model. It was repainted (like so many were) into Rosso Chiaro in the 80's but will be most likely be going back to it's original colour. All will be revealed when that decision is made. It will likely go through the same process as car number two with the engine, gearbox, suspension, radiator, exhaust, interior etc all removed for refurbishment and the body sent to a small specialist for a bare metal restoration and respray. The second pic shows how that car is progressing.
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Congratulations on Dino number 3! The Dino 246gt was my first Ferrari and I treasure memories of admiring this beauty, hardly being able to believe that she was mine. And even better memories of driving her, listening to that glorious V6 roar while enjoying her delicious crisp handling. Wonderful that these gems have found a good home being restored properly by you.

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Congrats to you. Wish you both a good "path" on the restoration road. What was the original colour ?
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Iain- My old Dino was a Dec 71 car, too, 02984. What is the serial number on your new car? They may have been sisters on the production line. Mirror twins with one RHD and one LHD and Rosso Dino.

Looks like a very nice project car. Three years in New England had rusted out the right front fender on my car, even though she was only three years old when I got her.

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Iain- My old Dino was a Dec 71 car, too, 02984. What is the serial number on your new car? They may have been sisters on the production line. Mirror twins with one RHD and one LHD and Rosso Dino.

Looks like a very nice project car. Three years in New England had rusted out the right front fender on my car, even though she was only three years old when I got her.


Rust on Dinos was a big problem.
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Congrat Iain!

You are becoming quite the Dino restorer. Great to see these cars being restored to their former glory. Congrats on the hat trick.

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Terry the chassis number on this one is 03050 so your car was 33 examples ahead of it - Dino's were only given even chassis numbers. It's the earliest of my three cars.

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Iain- Very probable they were on the line at the same time. Next car you need is one of the early ones with knock-off wheels. Yep, only Dinos and competition cars had even serial numbers back then.

Brian- After repair, the dry air in Clovis, NM prevented any more rust, although the car is now in Colorado. Pretty dry there, too, compared to New England.

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Congratulations!
What a gorgeous early E-Series coupe. Any idea what the original color is?

BTW, I logged into the factory Owners website and can't find where they state what the original colors of my cars in the my Garage are. I hope this didn't get removed for vintage customers.
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You can check your original colour by entering your five digit chassis number on the Dino register website. If you're lucky you'll find a record of your car on there and can update it's details if you like. Link to the website - The Dino Register

My latest car was Verde Germoglio which was extremely rare - only 69 produced in this colour. I love this shade of green which looks really fresh and vibrant so will be returning the car to it. It's very similar to Verde Miura on the Lamborghini Miura.

Here is a pic of a US based example in Verde Germoglio plus spray outs of the three colours of my cars - Verde Germoglio, Rosso Dino and Rosso Chiaro.
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Ian,

Much appreciated, unfortunately my second Dino is #05082, factory Italian version but now located in USA and the Register history has nothing on the cars time in Italy or original color.

The Dino Compendium is great but not details on color. I'm going to attempt to contact Marcel Massini for data or probable ways to find it.

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You can check your original colour by entering your five digit chassis number on the Dino register website. If you're lucky you'll find a record of your car on there and can update it's details if you like. Link to the website - The Dino Register

My latest car was Verde Germoglio which was extremely rare - only 69 produced in this colour. I love this shade of green which looks really fresh and vibrant so will be returning the car to it. It's very similar to Verde Miura on the Lamborghini Miura.

Here is a pic of a US based example in Verde Germoglio plus spray outs of the three colours of my cars - Verde Germoglio, Rosso Dino and Rosso Chiaro.
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Ian,

Much appreciated, unfortunately my second Dino is #05082, factory Italian version but now located in USA and the Register history has nothing on the cars time in Italy or original color.

The Dino Compendium is great but not details on color. I'm going to attempt to contact Marcel Massini for data or probable ways to find it.

Regards,

Scott


I would be very surprised if there was not some trace of it left in some out of the way areas. I know of a number of restorations where the original color was found on panels under the dash. That has the added benefit of supplying a color sample that has not changed due to the ravages of sun and weather.
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Scott,

I've dropped you a PM with another possible route for finding out your car's original colour.

I also have a picture, courtesy of F Chat, that shows two Dinos awaiting loading onto a ship at Calais in 1972 en route to delivery to Maranello Concessionaire's in Egham. There were so few cars supplied in Verde Germoglio that there is a high probability the one in this picture is my car - 03050.
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Congrats on your hat trick, great to see these cars being restored to their former glory and doubtless you are thoroughly enjoying their rebirth.

I really like the original colour of your latest project, it really suits the Dino well.

Are you planning to sell them once restored or what is your intention?

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I'm planning on keeping them Peter. I'll likely only sell one if a suitable 246GTS comes along as a replacement. I really enjoyed the whole process of restoring the first one and learning all about the model. I've still got a few bits to do to that car including having the correct heat stitched vinyl interior put back in the interior. I'm having that made in Italy just now by Luppi who do all of the interior restorations for the factory's Classiche service. Longer term they should be a fairly safe investment. It's a bit like an international treasure hunt with these cars as I've sourced door marker lights in Australia, a jack with vinyl pouch along with an owners book pack parts manual in Florida, an owners manual from New Jersey, numerous items from Ohio, a hazard warning triangle from Cambridge, dash mousehair from Holland, interior retrim in Modena, some vehicle history documentation via the Maranello archive etc.

I've been bitten by the "modern classic" bug and also have a 1973 911 targa I bought last November which will go into restoration this coming September.

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Congratulations.

I have heard that the EU Commission is looking into rumors of an individual trying to corner the Dino market.
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Verde germoglio! How cool! Very nice that you will returning the car to that colour, it is just SOOOOO Seventies. I love it.

Congrats Iain!


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Verde germoglio! How cool! Very nice that you will returning the car to that colour, it is just SOOOOO Seventies. I love it.

Congrats Iain!


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That is cool. I agree.

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Onno,

Would you believe I actually went to see that exact Verde Germoglio GTS in your picture. The only reason I didn't buy it was because I had the deal on 03050 going on in the background.

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