[barcheta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETmne...watch_response

[ECSofVirginia]

followed by.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLM-K9TwWM

[barcheta]

doh!

[KKRace]

Originally Posted by ECSofVirginia

followed by.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLM-K9TwWM

I guess he wasn't listening when his instructor told him to slightly lift off the gas when the car gets light at the crest of the rise in that series of turns.

He also made the mistake of trying to save it by cranking the wheel and ended up hitting the inside wall instead of locking the brakes and letting the car slide sideways to a safe stop.

[Boxer]

Originally Posted by KKRace

I guess he wasn't listening when his instructor told him to slightly lift off the gas when the car gets light at the crest of the rise in that series of turns.

He also made the mistake of trying to save it by cranking the wheel and ended up hitting the inside wall instead of locking the brakes and letting the car slide sideways to a safe stop.

I watched that 3 times I still can't figure out how you would possibly loose it there.

[lashss]

There is a rise through that corner according to KK...

Also, his wheel work is on the slow side...what was he waiting for?

LS

[ECSofVirginia]

Yea Boxer, he was still completely committed to the corner when the elevation dropped. I'm impressed that the Viper went through so smoothly, of the 2 cars I'd expect the result to have been different.

I watched a longer version of that clip and it looks like they got lucky and just dented up the left rear quarter real good, the car drove away.

[KKRace]

There's a couple hill hoppers going through those esses towards Oak Tree. Your pulling a small amount of lateral G's and hard on the gas. When you crest the top the car gets real light and if you don't ease off the throttle just before the top the car almost looses traction thats what happens.

If your a student of the friction circle what is happening is the car gets so light all available traction is needed to keep the car pointing the right direction. Trying to use some of the rear friction to accel the car causes you to use more total traction than you have available and the rear end breaks loose.

Similar to what happens at Lime Rock when you crest the hill after the right hander. The car is still trying to go left and all is good as long as you lift when the car comes over the top. Only difference at VIR you have three in a row.

Basically he was for the most part trying to accelerate and turn at the same time while the car was just about airborne. All was good while traveling up with the car loaded and stuck to the ground but when he got to the top...

[KKRace]

Originally Posted by lashss

There is a rise through that corner according to KK...

Also, his wheel work is on the slow side...what was he waiting for?

LS

Even though the car was facing the wrong direction it was traveling in a safe direction. If he just buried his foot on the brake pedal the car would have slid to a safe stop sideways and the only damage would have been the 4 flat spotted tires. It wouldn't have mattered what he did with the wheel once the tires where locked.

Or he could have done what I did and just go straight through the esses, pavement, grass left, pavement grass right, pavement.

[Boxer]

Sounds similar to the way you need to drive the back section of Spa. Hard of the gas, lift off slightly, then back hard on the gas.