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Old 04-15-2012, 03:55 PM   #1
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Anyone know anything about the 456 at STLM? Looking for info about what I need to know. Problems, usability, etc.

Looking to drive regularly.


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Is it silver or gray? GLB had one in their showroom last week.
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It's a stunning car. 02 Manual in silver/blk. They are asking 79,900. The price is very high, but reflects the manual and the last model year.

I've sniffed around 456s for a long time. The big issue seems to be the bmw sourced window seals, that can cause a lot of rain to get in the car. If that's been sorted, it shouldn't be anything crazy.

Of course, if you have a nudge in the front, the new hood is $10K

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it's a consignment car and the owner is adamant about $79k.

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The other item I read about needing to be inspected is for shrinkage of the leather on the dash.

There was some sort of service bulletin in the past on the window sealing. Should be able to check for that and if it hasn't happened yet make StLM perform is as condition of sale.

The asking price does sound high but would expect there to be a real price that si within normal range.

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[QUOTE=Jeff Kennedy;190486]The other item I read about needing to be inspected is for shrinkage of the leather on the dash.

All leather from Ferrari shrinks - dash rear shelf ask me how I know.

Two years I have been awaiting this fix under warranty.

STL Consignment = cheap car storage!


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Seems on the high side to me as well. It seems like a fun idea for a daily, not a real sporty beast, but should serve as a nice daily.

Any huge changes over the years on these? There are a few listed around 25-35k less. Looking in to it.


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The dash shows usual signs of shrinkage, especially around the passenger airbag and driver seat. The AC control panel is also warped, as is typical.

While a relatively low-mile example, at almost 17K miles, it is not considered a low-mileage car by the <10K Ferrari standard.

Even for a 2002 model, $80K for a 456 is outrageous. I'd say $15-20K over market for a car that is at the bottom of its depreciation curve and probably getting harder to sell each day.

I agree with Doug, either the owner wants the free storage consignment allows, or he doesn't really want to sell it.


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At 79k - for another 20 you can have a 612.

EIther way it's going to sit - anyone buying a 456 knows the market and the issues these cars have let alone an extremely high insurance rate.

Schumakers Edition money - no way!

Bill - I heard that hood is closer to 20k.


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had never heard of the 456 before, I was 9 when they stopped production...but the 456 GT Venice actually would be a cool family car because of its similarities to the FF but four doors, and I feel as though its lesser known model (I didn't ). Let me know if anyone comes by one of the seven made haha

But you should get one they look cool and have a shiny silver horse on them.
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I've always liked the 456. Some say the 456M is a better car but I just don't like the look as much without the air exits in the hood.

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I've always liked the 456. Some say the 456M is a better car but I just don't like the look as much without the air exits in the hood.

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I like the 456 hood and the 456M front fascia; but from what I've heard the M is the car to own and drive.

and find one with a stick...the auto box is a) a re-engineered GM hydromatic and b) for some reason costs $25k to replace


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A black 456 6-speed just posted on the other website. In Georgia, asking in under $60. Reads like even that price is negotiable. claims no leather shrinkage.

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FWIW here's a very pretty (best color combo IMO) 456 six-speed in the bay area. $48k is more in line with the market for these cars too

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I've always liked the 456. Some say the 456M is a better car but I just don't like the look as much without the air exits in the hood.

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You would do yourself a big favor going to the M . The hood is a direct swap from the older GT


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I like the 456 hood and the 456M front fascia; but from what I've heard the M is the car to own and drive.

and find one with a stick...the auto box is a) a re-engineered GM hydromatic and b) for some reason costs $25k to replace
can give a link to trans fixer but they hardly ever go out. Agree on hood facial, but the spoiler can be problematic.


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can give a link to trans fixer but they hardly ever go out. Agree on hood facial, but the spoiler can be problematic.
yeah I don't think the auto box is a major "fail item" but if it does, ouch.

btw your 456 is beautiful. rosso fiorano?


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yeah I don't think the auto box is a major "fail item" but if it does, ouch.

btw your 456 is beautiful. rosso fiorano?

MUCH more rare: Roso Metalizzato Fer 311/C : Almost a subtle [Goldilocks -- just right, not over the top] Candy Apple Red it just glistens.


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MUCH more rare: Roso Metalizzato Fer 311/C : Almost a subtle [Goldilocks -- just right, not over the top] Candy Apple Red it just glistens.
ah, cool.


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here's one under $40k at LFSC. needs some work (leather dash shrinkage, sticky plastic, visible gaps around window seals). and, it's an automatic

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