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| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Carbondale, IL
Ferrari Life Posts: 230
Name: Sid
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Anyone know anything about the 456 at STLM? Looking for info about what I need to know. Problems, usability, etc. Looking to drive regularly. Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway! |
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| | #2 |
| Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Louis
Ferrari Life Posts: 190
Name: Perron
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Is it silver or gray? GLB had one in their showroom last week.
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| | #3 |
| Owner Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: The Lou
Ferrari Life Posts: 122
Name: Bill
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It's a stunning car. 02 Manual in silver/blk. They are asking 79,900. The price is very high, but reflects the manual and the last model year. I've sniffed around 456s for a long time. The big issue seems to be the bmw sourced window seals, that can cause a lot of rain to get in the car. If that's been sorted, it shouldn't be anything crazy. Of course, if you have a nudge in the front, the new hood is $10K B |
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| | #4 |
| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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it's a consignment car and the owner is adamant about $79k. good luck |
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| | #5 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL
Ferrari Life Posts: 570
Name: Jeff Kennedy
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The other item I read about needing to be inspected is for shrinkage of the leather on the dash. There was some sort of service bulletin in the past on the window sealing. Should be able to check for that and if it hasn't happened yet make StLM perform is as condition of sale. The asking price does sound high but would expect there to be a real price that si within normal range. Jeff |
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| | #6 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis
Ferrari Life Posts: 8,078
Name: Doug
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[QUOTE=Jeff Kennedy;190486]The other item I read about needing to be inspected is for shrinkage of the leather on the dash. All leather from Ferrari shrinks - dash rear shelf ask me how I know. ![]() Two years I have been awaiting this fix under warranty. STL Consignment = cheap car storage! 16M MP4 - 12C Bentley SS Conv / RR / AH 3000 / Camaro 69Z28 |
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| | #7 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Carbondale, IL
Ferrari Life Posts: 230
Name: Sid
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Seems on the high side to me as well. It seems like a fun idea for a daily, not a real sporty beast, but should serve as a nice daily. Any huge changes over the years on these? There are a few listed around 25-35k less. Looking in to it. Old enough to know better, young enough to do it anyway! |
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| | #8 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: May 2010
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,087
Name: David
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The dash shows usual signs of shrinkage, especially around the passenger airbag and driver seat. The AC control panel is also warped, as is typical. While a relatively low-mile example, at almost 17K miles, it is not considered a low-mileage car by the <10K Ferrari standard. Even for a 2002 model, $80K for a 456 is outrageous. I'd say $15-20K over market for a car that is at the bottom of its depreciation curve and probably getting harder to sell each day. I agree with Doug, either the owner wants the free storage consignment allows, or he doesn't really want to sell it. Of all the narcissists I know, I love me the most. |
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| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St Louis
Ferrari Life Posts: 8,078
Name: Doug
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At 79k - for another 20 you can have a 612. EIther way it's going to sit - anyone buying a 456 knows the market and the issues these cars have let alone an extremely high insurance rate. Schumakers Edition money - no way! Bill - I heard that hood is closer to 20k. 16M MP4 - 12C Bentley SS Conv / RR / AH 3000 / Camaro 69Z28 |
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| | #10 |
| Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: [STL] - Schweiz
Ferrari Life Posts: 83
Name: Sebastian
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had never heard of the 456 before, I was 9 when they stopped production...but the 456 GT Venice actually would be a cool family car because of its similarities to the FF but four doors, and I feel as though its lesser known model (I didn't ![]() But you should get one they look cool and have a shiny silver horse on them. |
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| | #11 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL
Ferrari Life Posts: 570
Name: Jeff Kennedy
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I've always liked the 456. Some say the 456M is a better car but I just don't like the look as much without the air exits in the hood. Jeff |
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| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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and find one with a stick...the auto box is a) a re-engineered GM hydromatic and b) for some reason costs $25k to replace | |
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| | #13 |
| Owner Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edwardsville, IL
Ferrari Life Posts: 570
Name: Jeff Kennedy
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A black 456 6-speed just posted on the other website. In Georgia, asking in under $60. Reads like even that price is negotiable. claims no leather shrinkage. Jeff |
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| | #14 |
| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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FWIW here's a very pretty (best color combo IMO) 456 six-speed in the bay area. $48k is more in line with the market for these cars too ![]() 1995 Ferrari 456 GT |
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| Owner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 5,928
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Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan Past: 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan | |
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| Owner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 5,928
| can give a link to trans fixer but they hardly ever go out. Agree on hood facial, but the spoiler can be problematic.
Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan Past: 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan |
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| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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btw your 456 is beautiful. rosso fiorano? | |
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| Owner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: far and away
Ferrari Life Posts: 5,928
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MUCH more rare: Roso Metalizzato Fer 311/C : Almost a subtle [Goldilocks -- just right, not over the top] Candy Apple Red it just glistens. Guide to the Galaxy: Don't Panic Rik -- LAH ! Current: 1990 Mondial T Cabriolet : Red/Tan Past: 1995 456 GT 2+2 : Roso Metalizzato [Fer 311/C] & Tan | |
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| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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| | #20 |
| Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Swamp
Ferrari Life Posts: 2,423
Name: Chas
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here's one under $40k at LFSC. needs some work (leather dash shrinkage, sticky plastic, visible gaps around window seals). and, it's an automatic ![]() Lake Forest Sportscars 1997 Ferrari 456 GTA - |
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